Author Topic: Moto GP - Qatar SPOILERS (Read 1929 times)

capirex · « **on:** March 20, 2014, 02:22:51 PM »

Wow. FP1 results are a bit shocking to me. Granted the top 5 had tested here this year already and Aleix also had the advantage of a softer tire, but a second+ faster than the nearest factory machine is eye opening. I realize of course that its only FP1 but a full second seems alot to make up.
It may well be back to the old guard tomorrow, but if this continues throughout the weekend its sure to put the GP paddock on its ear. Fuerza Aleix!

1.    Aleix Espargaro    ESP   NGM Forward Racing (Forward-Yamaha)    1m   55.201s
2.    Alvaro Bautista    ESP   Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V)    1m   55.667s   |   +0.466s
3.    Bradley Smith    GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    1m   55.816s   |   +0.615s
4.    Andrea Iannone    ITA   Pramac Racing (Desmosedici)    1m   55.996s   |   +0.795s
5.    Pol Espargaro    ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    1m   56.020s   |   +0.819s
6.    Dani Pedrosa    ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)    1m   56.332s   |   +1.131s
7.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)    1m   56.542s   |   +1.341s
8.    Colin Edwards    USA   NGM Forward Racing (Forward-Yamaha)    1m   56.626s   |   +1.425s
9.    Jorge Lorenzo    ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)    1m   56.668s   |   +1.467s
10.    Nicky Hayden    USA   Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R)    1m   56.670s   |   +1.469s
11.    Marc Marquez    ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)    1m   56.682s   |   +1.481s
12.    Stefan Bradl    GER   LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V)    1m   56.726s   |   +1.525s
13.    Cal Crutchlow    GBR   Ducati Team (Desmosedici)    1m   57.046s   |   +1.845s
14.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici)    1m   57.100s   |   +1.899s
15.    Yonny Hernandez    COL   Pramac Racing (Desmosedici)    1m   57.623s   |   +2.422s
16.    Karel Abraham    CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R)    1m   57.779s   |   +2.578s
17.    Hiroshi Aoyama    JPN   Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R)    1m   58.182s   |   +2.981s
18.    Hector Barbera    ESP   Avintia Racing (Avintia)    1m   58.394s   |   +3.193s
19.    Scott Redding    GBR   Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)    1m   58.495s   |   +3.294s
20.    Mike Di Meglio    FRA   Avintia Racing (Avintia)    1m   58.732s   |   +3.531s
21.    Danilo Petrucci    ITA   IodaRacing Project (ART)    1m   59.321s   |   +4.120s
22.    Broc Parkes    AUS   Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)    1m   59.328s   |   +4.127s
23.    Michael Laverty    GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)    No Time

Salute to Romano Fenati leading the charge in both FP1 and 2 in Moto3. Ive been following this kid since he podiumed at Qatar two years ago and went on to win his first race in Jerez. He is now part of Rossi's moto3 team and its great to see him back at the sharp end.

Mac · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2014, 03:19:58 PM »

Wow, its already been a whole year since I was there last.

squeezer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2014, 03:21:33 PM »

Not what I would have guessed either. In fact, there's a lot of stuff in there I didn't expect. Sure, maybe expectations return to normal by race time, but this is already fun.

Are Edwards and Aleix on the same machinery?

In Moto2, Herrin is almost 2 seconds behind his teammate.

Black Hills · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:20:27 PM »

As usual the track is in poor condition with a lot of sand. Once it cleans up I'm betting on business as usual

kneescrubber · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2014, 06:36:49 PM »

Quote from: Black Hills on March 20, 2014, 06:20:27 PM

As usual the track is in poor condition with a lot of sand. Once it cleans up I'm betting on business as usual

As long as it doesn't turn into a curling event.

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viffergyrl · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2014, 07:34:28 PM »

tomek · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2014, 09:22:44 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 20, 2014, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: Black Hills on March 20, 2014, 06:20:27 PM
As usual the track is in poor condition with a lot of sand. Once it cleans up I'm betting on business as usual

As long as it doesn't turn into a curling event.

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That was defining moment in Gibernau`s career.

R Doug · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2014, 09:30:59 PM »

Is the 107% rule still in effect for qualifying? The field may be pretty small. If this were the qualifying results, we'd have a 5 horse race.

mastros2 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2014, 11:16:13 PM »

Don't read into it. AI said it best...


Original Allen Iverson Practice Rant

mastros2 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2014, 11:19:20 PM »

I'm calling factory Yamaha to be on the podium for this one. Marky Marc will be competitive but Jorge is going to take it.

squeezer · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2014, 12:55:45 AM »

Maybe.

Reading some interviews, it sounds like Big Espargaro was the only one of the fast guys who ran the soft tire. That explains a lot. And the factory guys didn't test there with the others. They'll probably make pretty big gains tomorrow.

JonS · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2014, 06:53:13 AM »

This is going to be a fun year, I think. Looks like the new rules will make it more than the usual suspects every race. I wouldn't take much from the first practice of the season, though.

capirex · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2014, 10:56:44 AM »

FP2 in the books. Aleix still on top from Dovi and Alvaro. Pedrosa the closest factory bike in 4th - .573 adrift.
Bradley Smith and Polyccio still ahead of the factory yammies.

Its still early of course. The big possum walks late.

capirex · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2014, 02:00:12 PM »

Espargaro the elder still on top after FP3. Improved his time again to a 1'54'773 - only rider to break 1'55

Surely hes the favorite for the pole at this point. My only question is if he can keep this pace for an entire race.

squeezer · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2014, 02:29:03 PM »

Okay, I just looked at the FP3 times and I'm genuinely scratching my head. I really expected the factory guys to be back up on top by now.

Dovi - 4th
Marquez - 5th
Lorenzo - 7th
Rossi - 9th
Pedrobot - 10th
Crutch(very)low - 12th

Huh. Can't wait to see the qualy times.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:38:48 PM »

Nicky may be wishing he was still riding a Duc?

R Doug · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2014, 07:31:15 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 21, 2014, 05:38:48 PM

Nicky may be wishing he was still riding a Duc?

Cal seems to be struggling compared to the other Ducs on the grid.

tomek · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2014, 07:42:23 PM »

Cal is overrated, I expect quiet Dovi to quietly outperform him in 2014.

If you go to motgp.com and look at "analysis" in "results and statistics" you gonna find M1s of Aleix and Edwards are dog slow. Like 10 kmh compared to factory/tech3 Yamahas, or 10 mph down on Ducatis and factory Hondas. Hayden`s Honda is even slower. He needs to put that red triangle on the back of his bike or people will run into him on straightaways.
I guess soft tire gives tremendous advantage , of course everyone says you won`t be able to use it in the race.

Anyhow, first 4-5 laps will be interesting but in the second part of the race I expect factory Hondas and Yamahas on top.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:27:24 PM »

FP 1 Ducati 4th
FP 2 Ducati 2nd
FP 3 Ducati 2nd & 4th

What?

squeezer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2014, 12:00:37 AM »

Ducs can use the soft tires. Like tomek said, it looks like they can't race with them because they can't go the distance. It ought to help in qualifying.

The tire thing is making it even harder to figure out what's going on. The timing charts I've seen don't say what tire they're on. Dovi's fast times were on softs. I'd guess Ianonne's were. Tires don't matter as much for Crutchlow because they're often pointing up.

JonS · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2014, 05:49:52 AM »

Quote from: squeezer on March 21, 2014, 02:29:03 PM

Okay, I just looked at the FP3 times and I'm genuinely scratching my head. I really expected the factory guys to be back up on top by now.

Dovi - 4th
Marquez - 5th
Lorenzo - 7th
Rossi - 9th
Pedrobot - 10th
Crutch(very)low - 12th

Huh. Can't wait to see the qualy times.

Yeah, me too.
Well, it's not boring, which was probably the whole point.

squeezer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2014, 11:03:02 AM »

On the extra fuel load: Nicky says the 24 liters given to the Open teams isn't that big a deal since his bike only holds 22 anyway.

R Doug · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2014, 02:30:53 PM »

Grid.

1 93 Marc MARQUEZ
2 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA
3 38 Bradley SMITH
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO
5 99 Jorge LORENZO
6 26 Dani PEDROSA
7 6 Stefan BRADL
8 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW
9 41 Aleix ESPARGARO
10 46 Valentino ROSSI
11 29 Andrea IANNONE
12 44 Pol ESPARGARO

The Rest

http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2014/QAT/MotoGP/Q2/QualifyingResults.pdf?v1_e20cce27

tomek · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM »

0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM »

Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM

0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

Black Hills · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2014, 07:58:10 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM

Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

And the usual 4th for Rossi

kneescrubber · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2014, 09:01:36 PM »

Quote from: Black Hills on March 22, 2014, 07:58:10 PM

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

And the usual 4th for Rossi

kneescrubber · « **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 09:01:36 PM

Quote from: Black Hills on March 22, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

And the usual 4th for Rossi

Not this time.

R Doug · « **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:58:00 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM

Not this time.

Fun fun fun final laps.

Wow, what a battle of attrition!

Mrs. DantesDame · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:06:35 PM »

Great race!

kneescrubber · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:07:12 PM »

What's the deal with turn 6?

Max Wedge · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:08:06 PM »

Quote from: R Doug on March 23, 2014, 02:58:00 PM

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM

Not this time.

Fun fun fun final laps.

Wow, what a battle of attrition!

That was some edge of your seat laps!

Cablebandit · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:08:48 PM »

Apparently it eats bikes.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:22:38 PM »

There's always one.

viffergyrl · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:41:43 PM »

I thought I was watching another Moto3 race…. I think the Doctor is 'in' as it were.

Damn - that was exciting!

tomek · « **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:45:01 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Black Hills on March 22, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

And the usual 4th for Rossi

Not this time.

Basically I was - of course - right. My knowledge of MotoGp is unmatched in solar system.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #36 on:** March 23, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »

Quote from: tomek on March 23, 2014, 03:45:01 PM

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Black Hills on March 22, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: kneescrubber on March 22, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: tomek on March 22, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
0.6 sec separates 1st and 10th place, I still say we`ll see usual suspects on top in the second part of the race.

So you're calling Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Marquez on the podium?

And the usual 4th for Rossi

Not this time.

Basically I was - of course - right. My knowledge of MotoGp is unmatched in solar system.

Except your omniscient knowledge didn't include George scoring no points and Ducati being 5th & 6th.

tomek · « **Reply #37 on:** March 23, 2014, 07:38:43 PM »

Well, I was 75% right, I cannot predict crashes unless it is Randy DePuniet or Curtiss Roberts.

Ducatis scored 5th and 6th only because whole bunch of people wiped out.

viffergyrl · « **Reply #38 on:** March 23, 2014, 07:48:57 PM »

Quote from: tomek on March 23, 2014, 07:38:43 PM

Well, I was 75% right, I cannot predict crashes unless it is Randy DePuniet or Curtiss Roberts.

Ducatis scored 5th and 6th only because whole bunch of people wiped out.

^^This. They are still 9 and 10.

stromgal · « **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2014, 09:57:13 AM »

While I may have some quibbles with DORNA's new (changed-by-the-day) rules

DAMN THAT WAS SOME GOOD RACIN'! I was screaming at my laptop and scaring the grandbabes.

Can't believe I'm going to be seeing them all in person at COTA in 18 days, courtesty of my Texas friends. Any N/Oers gonna be there?

capirex · « **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2014, 12:04:48 PM »

I still like MotoGP.

The new rules certainly brought the field closer together. I assume this was their goal, so at this point it has to be declared at least a temporary success.

Quote from: stromgal on March 24, 2014, 09:57:13 AM

Any N/Oers gonna be there?

I have begun the negotiation. Currently doing everything I can to get back to COTA.

R Doug · « **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2014, 01:05:40 PM »

Quote from: capirex on March 24, 2014, 12:04:48 PM

Quote from: stromgal on March 24, 2014, 09:57:13 AM
Any N/Oers gonna be there?

I have begun the negotiation. Currently doing everything I can to get back to COTA.

If I had the vacation time to do it again, I would in a heartbeat. What a wonderful place to visit and an excellent facility to watch MotoGP.

I could only get in one race this year and it's Indy because I've never got to experience the Indy Mile nor the bikes on Meridian St. And, since I'm riding up there this year, it'll make it even that much more special to me.

mastros2 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2014, 01:42:30 PM »

Quote from: R Doug on March 24, 2014, 01:05:40 PM

If I had the vacation time to do it again, I would in a heartbeat. What a wonderful place to visit and an excellent facility to watch MotoGP.

I could only get in one race this year and it's Indy because I've never got to experience the Indy Mile nor the bikes on Meridian St. And, since I'm riding up there this year, it'll make it even that much more special to me.

I didn't plan on COTA because I didn't know that I was going to receive an additional week of vacation this year. I thought it was coming next year. Oh well.

Hopefully I'll be back to Austin in 2015. Like Doug said, what a fantastic track and city.

I finally had the time to watch the Qatar GP race. Wow! It was fantastic! Looking to watch moto2 and moto3 later today. All the reviews of the race finally pushed me into buying the videopass. Now, no excuses for missing the race.

kneescrubber · « **Reply #43 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:08:09 PM »

And yet Vale didn't finish any better this year than he did last. But then again, neither did Marky Marq.

capirex · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2014, 09:16:13 PM »

Quote from: kneescrubber on March 24, 2014, 06:08:09 PM

And yet Vale didn't finish any better this year than he did last. But then again, neither did Marky Marq.

Jorge checked out for the win last year and Rossi was a distant second - just read that today and it jogged my memory.

Not sure where Marquez finished in Qatar last year but I do know he won his first premier class race in Austin. Thanks to Mr. and Mrs. satxbonneville, I was fortunate enough to be sitting in the corner where he set up Dani and passed him for the lead. It was a thing of beauty and Ill never forget it.

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