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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2014, 08:00:57 PM »
I think I may need to keep the stock pipe on my new bike until early July.

There's an old guy sitting in the shade next to the climb to the 'screw and he holds a sound gun.  He's very cranky.

R Doug has it right. The blind, cresting kink that is turn one is the most daunting. You're flat out, or you want to be, but until you get your marks you've no idea where you're going. In the old days, before they added Andretti and the infields bits to extend the track for FIM requirements, you continued flat out through 3 or 4 ever-faster bumpy sweepers (depends on how fast your bike was. An RD350 with sorted suspension was pinned. A KZ1000 was almost a nightmare) before you went under the bridge and up the hill.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2014, 09:27:25 PM »
Looking at the data, I was hitting about 120 mph over that crest. The real mental challenge for me there was to stay pinned until halfway down the back side, rather than rolling off at the top.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2014, 04:46:45 PM »
Looking at the data, I was hitting about 120 mph over that crest. The real mental challenge for me there was to stay pinned until halfway down the back side, rather than rolling off at the top.

The MotoGP guys are pushing real close to 160 MPH at that point, if you're to believe the on-board data and press releases. It's mind-boggling to think about that.

Back in the '90s the elder WSBK riders who'd experienced some of the older classic track of Europe, such as Spa-Francorchamps, the old Assen and even the Nordschliefe had a fondness for Laguna. It was all off-camber and blind and it pissed off people like Fogarty.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2014, 07:05:40 PM »
Looking at the data, I was hitting about 120 mph over that crest. The real mental challenge for me there was to stay pinned until halfway down the back side, rather than rolling off at the top.

The MotoGP guys are pushing real close to 160 MPH at that point, if you're to believe the on-board data and press releases. It's mind-boggling to think about that.


I can believe it. I've seen Jeremy's data and he tops it at about 150. I'm pretty sure If I'd had my old RR I would have been near 130.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2014, 07:13:57 PM »
I'm not sure what speed I took it.  But, I know the bike's suspension extends at the crest.  The bike "floats" to the right.  And, the RPMs pick up on the bike as the suspension unloads. 

For me, it was all about trusting the corner worker. 

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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2014, 07:16:54 PM »


My big deal with that corner was having the time for the bike to settle while braking and shifting down to second from sixth.  As far as the line goes, that wasn't an issue after the first couple of laps.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2014, 11:55:02 PM »
It's a vivid memory for me.

Wayne Rainey wasn't a World Champion yet. He was riding a Team Maclean Honda RS500 (the triple) and making his bones. It was one wheel or the other, sometimes both, off the ground through that old section.

Freddie Spencer tore through it, too. The 5 lap qualifier on the square 4 NSR500. It sounded like a ripped zipper. That Camel Challenge race was prolly the only race that bike ever won. Mick Grant always crashed 'em.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2014, 12:32:52 AM »
Rainey Corner:

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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2014, 12:45:01 AM »
Very red and very cool.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2014, 12:54:03 AM »
I had to get a red bike to match my leathers.
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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2014, 06:17:43 AM »
:lol:   :smiley_thumb:   I'll bet that bike is a hoot on the track.


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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2014, 02:15:05 PM »
Stoner's pass on Lorenzo in T1 in the 2011 race was the one that Schwantz (I think) ranked as one of the best overtakes for the lead that he had ever seen.

Some comments from Stoner about the pass (Cycle News)

"Casey Stoner showed exceptional patience on Sunday afternoon at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in Monterey, California. Second-quickest in qualifying, the 25-year-old Repsol Honda rider waited until the closing laps of the Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix before driving hard out of Turn 11 and up the short front straightaway to pull alongside race leader Jorge Lorenzo as they crested Turn 1—the fastest section of the rolling, 2.238-mile racetrack. Stoner completed the pass on the reigning world champion going into Turn 2 and then took command of the race. Margin of victory was 5.6 seconds.

I asked Stoner if blind, fast Turn 1 was an ideal place to pass Lorenzo. “Yeah, it’s a scary corner,” the Australian admitted. “But I don’t find it as scary as other people. I’ve never had a ‘moment’ there. It’s not a corner where you’re on the limit. I’ve always felt pretty confident going over there, and that’s why I’ve had the top speed all weekend.”

On that particular lap, Stoner was clocked at 262.7 kph—the equivalent of 163.2 mph. “I’m the only one who holds it flat with a longer sixth gear,” he added. “It feels comfortable to me. I feel like Turn 2 is Turn 1, you know? Turn 1 for me is just a kink.” 

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Re: Laguna Seca for 2014
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2014, 11:51:48 PM »
That's why Stoner is who he is.

I'd like to see him back.
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