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Dirt Riding Tips
« on: August 04, 2016, 08:34:02 AM »
I came across some pretty good insights and tips for riding large ADV bikes in dirt on the page linked below. I knew lowering tire pressure was recommended, but never would have expected 20 or even 12psi.
Wes Siler does a good job of explaining some of the nuances, but also stresses that there's nothing like going out and trying it.
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/how-to-ride-a-big-heavy-motorcycle-off-road-1644323791
Some of the questions and comments at the end of the article are pretty good too.

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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 08:44:58 AM »
Nice article. I need to get new foot pegs for my 1190 as well as a set of bar risers to make standing easier.
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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 08:48:11 AM »
interesting stuff. I don't think I would run less than 20psi on my 1190. it's just too heavy and would taco rims like crazy. I run 12 on my 300 and still end up with rim damage occasionally. For me the #1 thing to have done is proper suspension set up. It makes a huge difference.

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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 09:20:24 AM »
Nice article. I need to get new foot pegs for my 1190 as well as a set of bar risers to make standing easier.

I'm also considering bar risers. I signed up for the Wailin Wayne Weekend on Sept. 9-11 which includes several 4 hour trail rides, so there could be a lot of standing going on.

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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 10:47:46 AM »
My stock GS bars will adjust perfectly for me for standing or seated.  But, these are two different bar positions via rotation of the bars in the factory mount.  So, for long periods of off-road, I would loosen the bars and adjust them up followed by another adjustment downwards for long days in the seat.

I've considered getting the quick bar adjustors from Wunderlich to make this transition much more easy and quicker.



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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 10:50:41 AM »
My stock GS bars will adjust perfectly for me for standing or seated.  But, these are two different bar positions via rotation of the bars in the factory mount.  So, for long periods of off-road, I would loosen the bars and adjust them up followed by another adjustment downwards for long days in the seat.

I've considered getting the quick bar adjustors from Wunderlich to make this transition much more easy and quicker.



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Plus you can flip the factory risers around to move the bars forward if you choose.
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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 11:13:12 AM »
I'm new to all this, but bought a bike already set up for "off-road". I planned to sell off the Rox rotating risers and pivot pegz thinking I wouldn't need them, but I'm really glad I didn't as they are awesome when standing. Also I never pressure down for off-road because it's a pain in the ass. I run 33 rear and 31 front for both dirt and pavement. I've done some fairly gnarly stuff lately (atv trails) and it seems to be fine with the Mitas E07's.

Some good tips for me to try in the article. Thanks
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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 11:14:40 AM »
None of those things are uniquely suited to BIG bikes.  That's kinda how you should handle any bike off road. 

I just spent about 45 minutes zipping around the trails on the property just working low speed skills in the rocks, soft loamy soil and thick moss.  I'm trying to get better at steering w/ the throttle while keeping my feet on the pegs and practical uses for lifting the wheel in precarious places.

I have a good mix of easy, medium and hard trails to work on.  That of course is relative to the little bike I ride but it still all harkens back to the most important thing you can do which is practice, practice, practice.  I have a very steep hill that I've recently added to the mix.  It's not very long but it's like a 40 degree hill.  I can make it up without too much drama and I've been working on trusting the front brake and body position when going down it.  Daunting. 

I should do a dual sport training / camping weekend where y'all can bring your bikes up and play in the woods and practice in a relatively safe environment.  Start with the driveway, advance to the easy trails then progress as your skills increase.  It's only 20 acres but I find it extremely entertaining.  :)
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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2016, 04:43:01 PM »
Smoker, how do you like the E-07s? I was looking at them when I replaced my K60s. Unfortuntaley they didn't have a 21" yet?

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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 07:28:56 PM »
Smoker, how do you like the E-07s? I was looking at them when I replaced my K60s. Unfortuntaley they didn't have a 21" yet?

Do they make a 21" now?

My limited review is they are really not as bad as I first thought. I've been known to ride fairly aggressively on the street, and the E07's don't like that. They tend to walk a bit at max lean. I've been relying on the tc to keep me upright more than I should on pavement. Once I got used to the squeamish feeling out was fine.

My off road experience is ver limited compared to yours, but the only problem I've had is in deep mud at speed, the front went sideways and nearly threw me off. Other than that, I've done 80+ mph on dirt/gravel and it felt great.

I would call it a compromise on both. Good on gravel, good on tarmac, not great at either.

Hope this helped.

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Re: Dirt Riding Tips
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2016, 08:01:06 AM »
Thanks!! I'm fairly happy with the K60's other than if it is wet (not usually a problem here). but may give the E07's a try.