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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 08:05:42 AM »

Really. That surprises me. I haven't ridden either the Magna or the Sabre, but I figured if the Magna was good, having a better seating arrangement and a larger tank (and better looks IMO) would be a gimme.


Oh, I wouldn't give you a nickel for the first or second gen magna. I'm all about the 3rd gen.

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I've never found the previous generations too terribly enjoyable, and it's all because of frame and geometry and such.
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 08:55:52 AM »
I want to hear more of Papa's life story through bikes!
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 10:43:08 AM »
Yamaha Special-II 400cc something or another. Oh my god, what a galactic scale piece of shit this bike was. Handled like a wet noodle, stopped like... well, the brakes were a suggestive after thought. Went well enough after about a 3-day warm up period, and was the most lack-luster, least enjoyable thing I've ever ridden.

Is it weird that I agree with you on everything about the Special, but I had an absolute blast riding it around?

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1983 Honda Shadow 750. I hated this bike. Ergonomics really sucked for me, and handling wasn't great. Doesn't help that mine never really ran right in all the time I owned it.

2006 V-Strom 1000 is about the best all around bike I've owned. Doesn't really exceed at anything, but for a bike that will handle highway, curves, and dirt, this is it.

2007 Yamaha FZ-1 is so far my favorite out of the bikes I've ever owned. For me, even the stock seat is comfortable enough for long rides. It's not going to handle the dirt roads or the two tracks the way the Strom did, but oh well, I have to adjust less than 5% of my riding.

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 02:33:16 PM »
I guess "old" is relative...

My oldest bike was the 1992 Honda CB750 Nighthawk.  a good beginner bike. AWESOME mpgs. nary a problem until i realized it was gutless. took me two years.
2002 VFR800 - SWAWESOME bike! Loved that bike. only thing lacking, as all say, was power. it really didn't lack that much, but when you buy an 02 Busa and keep the VFR, the VFR seems kinda slow. Kick myself for selling the bike, but couldn't handle the payments of 2 bikes.

2002 Busa - no complaints. well, it was a fat pig and a major workout on the track. sold it without thoroughly talking to My Honey. who's the D-ass...  this guy.

2004 GSXR750 - great bike on the track, not near as much fun on the street. still had a blast.

2007 FJR1300 - great all around bike except a soulless bitch. after the first month, nary a smile. couldn't wait to get rid of it.

2011 GSXR750 - awesome bike but sold it because of wrist and Boss comfort issues. wish I could have kept it for future track days, but having it as a single bike was not working out. traded it for the current ride.
previous rides: 2011 GSXR750, 2007 FJR1300, 2004 GSXR750, 2002 Busa, 2002 VFR800, 1992 Honda Nighthawk CB750

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 02:37:33 PM »
I want to hear more of Papa's life story through bikes!

You'll have to wait a bit. Intyerview tomorrow, wife's father just died, and I'm 60 today.

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 02:41:49 PM »

I want to hear more of Papa's life story through bikes!

You'll have to wait a bit. Intyerview tomorrow, wife's father just died, and I'm 60 today.

I'm very sorry to hear about your FIL and happy to hear you have made it another year. Take your time, I'll be hear.
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 03:41:18 PM »
Happy Birthday Ed Papa!

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 06:04:53 PM »
Cymru am Byth...........


I've owned close to 30 bikes over a 46 year riding career, kinda hard to pick a favorite. My first bike was a Hodaka Super Rat, then a Yamaha RT360 MX, then a 380 CZ GP Rep. all of which I motocrossed with some success. My first street bike was a Kawasaki KZ750 twin which I bought with my getting out of the Navy savings.

My two favorites I suppose were my '85 K100RS and my '02 Triumph Trophy 1200, both of which I put over 60k on and both of which I lost through circumstances, the Beemer was when my daughters were born and the Trophy got hit by some street racer assholes

I had 2 1200 Bandit S Suzuki's, an '01 and an '04, which were a lot of fun and a real workhorses, I had an '06 T100 Bonneville which was fun, I've owned a total of 8 Harley's of various styles but they're not something I'm interested in anymore.

I had an R1200 GS which I loved and foolishly traded off and a VFR which turned out to be fraught with electrical problems and I couldn't wait to get rid of.

Right now I'm enjoying the hell out of my Super Tenere and can see keeping it for a long time. There's plenty of other bikes I'd love to own so I'll see how things go.
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 06:40:39 PM »
Every bike I've owned has been old. I have 2 right now. My '86 K100 was a keeper. Unfortunately a Guatemalan maid who didn't speak or read English and worked for a lawyer made a left turn in front of me. I escaped with my life. And I'm thankful for that. My R80ST is the one bike I wish I still had. Alas, I had to sell it because I needed the money. Same with my '81 XL500R. Bought it new when I left the service. Upgraded the front end with an '85 XL350 (thus giving me a disc brake). That's the one I owned the longest. Sold it in '09. We rode all over Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona & Colorado.

My '99 VFR is like my stereo or camera equipment; I'm holding on to it to the very last fingernail. It does everything I need. It's a little ragged but she's a bitch and doesn't care. The /5? My dad and I raced that bike for many years from the late 80's to late 90's in AHMRA and WERA. I'll probably pass it on to my son. It's been retired from the track and lives the life of a former Derby winner.

Suzuki TS185, Penton 250, Ducati Monster, R80GS.....meh. Not really worth mentioning.
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2014, 12:52:58 AM »
 Don't have the riding history of most here, but I'll chime in anyway.

 1987 ZX600A: The bike that taught me how to ride for the most part. Better than it's tube framed variants, but still pretty flexible. 20K per head gasket. Wonderful power curve for a 600 despite the lack of overall power. Looked better when I sold it than it ever did while I was riding it. Much sanding was required.

 1993 GTS1000: heavy literbike with a long reach to the bars, and the oddball hub center steering. No point in taking the RPMs above 6K. Didn't care about bumps, but lacked front end feel. That was part of it's demise. Lots of bodywork, but relatively well engineered. Miss it dearly even though I still have the remains.

 1998 VFR800: The best of the 2 previous bikes combined without the chassis issues. Some electrical issues that were easily solved. More comfortable than either. 4 pieces of major bodywork i.e. get her naked almost as fast as a cheap whore. Aftermarket suspension solved the minor handling issues. 100 HP is enough for me. The VFR has the pull of the GTS at ZX RPMs with better road feel than either.

 1994 VFR750: This 20 year old bike has me grinning in my helmet every time I ride it despite the weak brakes, and 127K miles on the clock. Similar to the 98, but smoother throttle response, and a little lighter. Almost too easy to ride fast (PO did some suspension work). Not as easy to wrench on as the 98 due to the overly fiddley, and fragile bodywork.

 Some bikes I haven't owned, but had/have at my disposal:

 2002 R11150RT: Great touring bike that had potential, but manufacturer arrogance/incompetence ruined the experience. Wonderful power/handling, but hard to wrench on. Serious design flaws. Expensive to maintain, and repair.

 2004(?) Ninja 250: Stupid little bike with 27HP put a big grin on my face in the twisties. Kinda reminded me of an ultra-light version of my old ZX.

 2001 ST4: Light, torquey, and vibey. Overall quirkey. High maintenance Italian. Almost as bad to wrench on as the BMW, but the comedy of construction makes it more fun. Needs suspension upgrades, but what stock bike doesn't? I prefer the more refined nature of my VFRs, but the Duc always puts a grin on my face until I scrape the hard parts. The Duc may best the VFRs in a drag race, but until it gets some suspension the VFRs will leave her behind in the twisty bits.

 I have never bought a brand new vehicle, and likely never will.

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 10:11:21 AM »
1977 Kawasaki KE-100    I remember taking this little enduro down Barnett Shoals Road in Clarke County to see how fast it would go.....with 1/2 a tank of gas, synthetic oil in the tank and with me laying down over the gas tank I got her up to 62mph......Nirvana.... We was wide open, layed out and hauling ass!!! During the 3 years I had that one I completely disassembled it twice to clean it up and tweak it. Carb cleanings were required weekly to allow the bike to outrun my Brother on his 175. (Its not all the bike, its 70% the driver!)


I traded it in for a brand new 1978 Kawasaki KZ-250 thumper and took it straight out to Barnett Shoals Rd after the break in period, layed down on the tank and hit a glorious 71 mph! She was a nimble little thumper....would wheelie without Herculean of effort and kept me busy for 2 years making tht 47 dollar a month payment. But when I got her payed off I sold her for 750 bucks and bought a 1972 Mustang(first car) who's trip down Barnett Shoals Road yielded a 102mph run.(although anyone who knows the car knows that at 91 mph the front end floated straight up and the steering was now no more a suggestion.) 



1982 found me in Charleston, SC living on the Good Ship Dewey (DDG-45) and without wheel's...Dad insisted I sell the Mustang before I left for boot camp and as an E-4 I couldn't really afford a car note AND the beer I was drinking. Soooooooo.....A trip to a motorcycle shoppe on Spruill Ave yielded a brand 1983 new Suzuki GS-650G model and a whopping uncomfortably large 117 dollar payment....She was air cooled shaft driven (almost there!!!)....decent in the twisties and a good interstate bike. First trip home I took her out to Barnett Shoals Rd and yeilded a 118 MPH pass first try! I never had to buy anything other then wear parts for the bike and she never failed to start. This was first motorcycle LOVE....I shoulda kept her. But.....the need for windows and a heater because of shore Duty orders in Norfolk VA caused me to think I needed to sell her so I sold her to my brother who wrecked her then let her rot in his front yard.(Never sell vehicles you like to family)


Got out in 1987, found a job, found a wife....made a couple of babies and payed the mortgage till 1994 when a fellow at work put a 1992 Concours up for sale on the board in the break room. The soul less  Ford Festive in the driveway had 141k mile on her, the budget was tight and the 4500 asking price was on deposit in the bank....I bought it. When I went home and told the wife that the owner would be over tomorrow with the bike she asked me if I wanted a divorce. I told her it was a cash deal and that it was done. The next 3 weeks of the marriage were the quietest EVER and it took me another 6 months to get her on the back of the bike....I havent been able to get her off of it since! :)

Now, that 1992 C-10 needed an updated clutch spring cause the lever was bumping me from the day I bought it but the dealership took 6 weeks to get one in my hand.NEVEER WENT BACK TO A DEALER FOR SERVICE!!!!!!EVER!!!!! She wasnt the quickest quietest or most comfortable bike on the road but for 141 thousand miles she took me to work, the mountains....beach.....the Natchez trace twice and got my cherry on the Dragon. In 2003 I took her down Barnett Shoals Rd and went down it at 121mph...When she died a horrible death by stretched timing chain I was miserable.... She was an old steady friend that loved a good time.


   But by then the C-14 had come out and I didnt really connect with it so the ST1300 was bought....She blew down Barnett Shoals road at 148 MPH.......


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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 01:01:26 PM »
I want to read more of Papa's story. Living with IRA members and AWOL Turkish sailors in a time of National strife? That's all good stuff right there.

Myself? I grew up in post "On Any Sunday" NorCal and even on the SF Peninsula you could find open fields for kids to ride dirt and minibikes. I never had a bike of my own, but friends never had a problem laughing at me when riding their's. Good fun. Oracle HQ now stands on that land. A fckg shame.

1978 RD400. Paid $850 dollars on the day after my 17th birthday. College student I bought it from owed $800 on it. I went to his bank, paid the loan off and handed the owner $50 and the receipt. He was not pleased. Fck him. The bike never ran right, always having a mid-range stumble. At full throttle it ran great, but trundling through town was always a bother. Then I found Gordon Jennings famous book on Two Stroke tuning. Probably made things worse, but for a few years I had some great piston art ashtrays.
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2014, 01:25:56 PM »
Around Christmas in 1980 I traded the RD for a 1980 Honda CB750F. The only Honda I've ever owned, and when I look back, the only Honda I've ever ridden. Beautiful bike, and at the time the finest handling machine you could buy, though the Suzuki GS machines were right up there.

These where high times for my riding development. After eschewing my two stroke tuning skills (see the above RD post) I got on with learning to ride and maintain a motorcycle. I started acquiring more ATGATT gear. The shop dispatcher at the Mercedes Benz dealership I worked at was an AFM 125GP racer. He kept his little Honda 125 in his kitchen. It was the easiest place to store it as he lived on the 3rd floor. While he didn't impart any skills he did give me, through osmosis, an attitude towards motorcycling.
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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2014, 03:22:28 PM »
This slightly out of time order history comitunes.

As I remember it, I didn't get the Panther 650 sloper until I got to Sussex. Not the NSU scooter, nor the Velosolex. Memory plays tricks. Sorry.

Anyways, I had escaped home/ been driven out and I was given a variety of machines. This being the latter half of the 70's, few of us thought these 20 year old piles of crap would ever be worth what they are now.

The NSU scooter scared me. It went into a hedge and was left there.

The Velosolex caught fire-into a hedge it went.

I think I sold the Panther for about £10.

I had a Norton Dominator 600 for a while. Into a hedge it went, after repeated breakdowns.

By that time, I was friends with a number of Hells Angels in Sussex. Now, these were the old English Hells Angels, who were, let us say, pretty English. When the Stones farm,ed out security at Hyde Park in 67, these were the people they got. A different story when they did the same at Monterey-those American HAs were a different lot altogether.

I used to hang out with Mitch and the Sussex HA at the Northumberland Arms in Brighton. Mitch was huge and bought the first Honda CB750-he's still got it. The Arms is still there but it is now a night club. Pah.

It was around thios time that the real HA charter was brought over by Fred Buttons. I met him a couple of times and he was not a nice man. The unofficial chapters were absored or destroyed. There was a peace meeting with the Windsor chapter and the All England in the New Forest: the Windsor lot had a black Hells Angel and the All England did not approve. Needless to say, people got cut up, killed and shot. I was not there because I wasn't stupid. The last time I saw Fred was in 1979. He was a major drugs dealer and utterly paranoid. I was relieved never to see him again.

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Re: Review Your Old Bikes
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2014, 07:16:17 PM »
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