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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2014, 09:52:50 AM »
Quote from: dm_gsx1300r on June 26, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
Here's an interesting site, lots of stats:

http://tabtimes.com/resources/the-state-of-the-tablet-market

 2.3 What are the tablet OS shares in online traffic?

OS share of online traffic from tablets
iPad: 84.3%
Kindle Fire: 5.9%
Samsung Galaxy Tab: 4.2%
Nook: 1.2%
(source: Chitika, based on ad impressions on its network in the US and Canada, June 2013)


As pointed out, Apple was first to market and has a large legacy component.  I'm not sure this predicts where sales trends are currently (which is what decides whether a company takes off or becomes the next RIM/Blackberry).
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2014, 09:57:48 AM »
CNN.com. -contact us

I double-dog-dare you to ask them yourself!
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2014, 10:01:01 AM »
Quote from: jimmy on June 26, 2014, 09:57:48 AM
CNN.com. -contact us

I double-dog-dare you to ask them yourself!

HAHA!

They have an "advertise with us" link but no "contact us" and no "about"!
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2014, 10:02:07 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on June 26, 2014, 09:05:48 AM

Does the tool/toy assumption apply to smartphones as well as tablets?

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I believe it does, yes . . . . . I doubt if most Android buyers are purchasing a brand . . . I would bet that most Apple purchasers are.

Of course, this doesn't make nearly as conspiratorial a story.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2014, 10:03:37 AM »
Found contact us via google search.  :bigsmile:
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2014, 10:06:26 AM »
Quote from: bomber on June 26, 2014, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on June 26, 2014, 09:05:48 AM

Does the tool/toy assumption apply to smartphones as well as tablets?

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I believe it does, yes . . . . . I doubt if most Android buyers are purchasing a brand . . . I would bet that most Apple purchasers are.

Of course, this doesn't make nearly as conspiratorial a story.


I didn't say it was conspiratorial.  My theory is, CNN views Apple as a Social Trend.  That they sell electronics is of secondary concern.  If apple marketed running shoes, it would be "Breaking News" from a social trending perspective.  In that sense, Apple has made media outlets their lil' advertising 'bots--free advertising 'bots at that.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2014, 10:08:37 AM »
...and btw,

THAT should concern you.  Media outlets SHOULD be thoughtful about what and why they write stories and WHY they decide something is worthy of greater promotion (via "Breaking News" or Homepage headline or whatever).  Does an Apple advertisement for their latest cell phone warrant that?
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 10:15:34 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on June 26, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
Found contact us via google search.  :bigsmile:

Maybe the Android coverage was there all along, but you just couldn't find it!   ;D
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2014, 10:19:29 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on June 26, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
I believe it does, yes . . . . . I doubt if most Android buyers are purchasing a brand . . . I would bet that most Apple purchasers are.

Of course, this doesn't make nearly as conspiratorial a story.

I didn't say it was conspiratorial.  My theory is, CNN views Apple as a Social Trend.  That they sell electronics is of secondary concern.  If apple marketed running shoes, it would be "Breaking News" from a social trending perspective.  In that sense, Apple has made media outlets their lil' advertising 'bots--free advertising 'bots at that.

Fair enough, and you are likely right . . . .our local broadcast morning news carries stories about Starbux raising prices, Mickey D's changing ingrediants, and Whole Foods discussion of plastic bag use . . . . . . .

Quote from: Mr. Whippy on June 26, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
...and btw,

THAT should concern you.  Media outlets SHOULD be thoughtful about what and why they write stories and WHY they decide something is worthy of greater promotion (via "Breaking News" or Homepage headline or whatever).  Does an Apple advertisement for their latest cell phone warrant that?

Oh, I would be concerned if I viewed CNN as a news outlet . . . . but I don't . . . .. neither do I turn to Entertainment Tonight for a digest of the day's dimplomatic issues, or TMZ for information abut the happenings in Syria.

That so many others view CNN as a plce to become informed on issues that matter, now THAT concerns me.

Media, News. They may have been the same, at one point (or close enought to be interchangable) . . . that day is no longer.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 10:20:37 AM »
Quote from: bomber on June 26, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
  I would be concerned if I viewed CNN as a news outlet . . . . but I don't . . . .. neither do I turn to Entertainment Tonight for a digest of the day's dimplomatic issues, or TMZ for information abut the happenings in Syria.

That so many others view CNN as a plce to become informed on issues that matter, now THAT concerns me.

Media, News. They may have been the same, at one point (or close enought to be interchangable) . . . that day is no longer.

This, a million times.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2014, 10:23:08 AM »
Quote from: bomber on June 26, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
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Oh, I would be concerned if I viewed CNN as a news outlet . . . . but I don't . . . .. neither do I turn to Entertainment Tonight for a digest of the day's dimplomatic issues, or TMZ for information abut the happenings in Syria.

That so many others view CNN as a plce to become informed on issues that matter, now THAT concerns me.

Media, News. They may have been the same, at one point (or close enought to be interchangable) . . . that day is no longer.

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Quote from: bomber on June 26, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
  I would be concerned if I viewed CNN as a news outlet . . . . but I don't . . . .. neither do I turn to Entertainment Tonight for a digest of the day's dimplomatic issues, or TMZ for information abut the happenings in Syria.

That so many others view CNN as a plce to become informed on issues that matter, now THAT concerns me.

Media, News. They may have been the same, at one point (or close enought to be interchangable) . . . that day is no longer.

This, a million times.

I stopped reading MSNBC/NBCNews a couple years ago and switched to CNN.com.

Who do you use for your quick update on news events?
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2014, 10:35:13 AM »
For a quick update . . . . local news and weather. . . . . local broadcast (the networks are OK, couple of indie stations are better).

National/International  . . . . . .a mix of CNN/MSNBC (which, as you say, carry fluff as well, but they do carry big stuff on a surface level -- I ignore the editorializing)  and the local PBS affiliate (carries BBC), Al jazeera, and scanning the local paper.

During the winter (not on the bike) NPR.

I try to go deeper than a quick update once a day . . . . I'm a print guy, at heart.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2014, 10:35:54 AM »
You guys are trying to disillusion the fruit fanbois. It's a waste of time.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2014, 10:52:19 AM »
Quote from: bomber on June 26, 2014, 10:35:13 AM
For a quick update . . . . local news and weather. . . . . local broadcast (the networks are OK, couple of indie stations are better).

National/International  . . . . . .a mix of CNN/MSNBC (which, as you say, carry fluff as well, but they do carry big stuff on a surface level -- I ignore the editorializing)  and the local PBS affiliate (carries BBC), Al jazeera, and scanning the local paper.

During the winter (not on the bike) NPR.

I try to go deeper than a quick update once a day . . . . I'm a print guy, at heart.

In numerous studies, MSNBC "wins" most of the time or ties with FoxNews in biased reporting.  Seriously, MSNBC consistently does worse than CNN and splits 50/50 with FoxNews at the bottom of the heap.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2014, 11:07:51 AM »
I'm not looking for reportage in the morning, Whip . . .

I'm looking for local weather, did our king, er, Mayor give away public property to some famous guy to build a museum on, and did we nuke/get nuked  by Syria type stuff for a quick check.

CNN, MSNBC, damn near everybody can supply that.

News, Whip. Not commentary. If I want commentary, I go to print, 8 times outa 10.
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