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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2014, 11:15:43 AM »
I'm not looking for reportage in the morning, Whip . . .

I'm looking for local weather, did our king, er, Mayor give away public property to some famous guy to build a museum on, and did we nuke/get nuked  by Syria type stuff for a quick check.

CNN, MSNBC, damn near everybody can supply that.

News, Whip. Not commentary. If I want commentary, I go to print, 8 times outa 10.


Yea,  I was referring to news reports.  Studies consistently show MSNBC has a pronounced bias in their NEWS reporting.  Sometimes worse than FoxNews, often equivalent.  CNN is better.  PBS, BBC rated better, but they're not as browser friendly for me at work. (and BBC is harder to get US-centric stories).   

BTW, these are studies out of USC, UCLA, and various non-profits who come up with these conclusions.  If it were one researcher, that'd be one thing, but it is seen consistently in US based studies and UK based studies.

Again, News stories, not commentary or blog stuff.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2014, 11:34:30 AM »
I get the vast majority of my non-local news from The Daily Show.  At least it's not pretending to be anything other than entertainment. :lol:
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2014, 11:37:10 AM »
I get the vast majority of my non-local news from The Daily Show.  At least it's not pretending to be anything other than entertainment. :lol:
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2014, 11:39:41 AM »
I get most of my news via Reddit. I can decide the topics that are of interest to me and read them on a daily basis. There are many non-mainstream sources that you don't often get to see as well. I try to avoid the more wacky sites like Salon or The Blaze.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2014, 11:39:59 AM »
I'm not looking for reportage in the morning, Whip . . .

I'm looking for local weather, did our king, er, Mayor give away public property to some famous guy to build a museum on, and did we nuke/get nuked  by Syria type stuff for a quick check.
CNN, MSNBC, damn near everybody can supply that.

News, Whip. Not commentary. If I want commentary, I go to print, 8 times outa 10.


Yea,  I was referring to news reports.  Studies consistently show MSNBC has a pronounced bias in their NEWS reporting.  Sometimes worse than FoxNews, often equivalent.  CNN is better.  PBS, BBC rated better, but they're not as browser friendly for me at work. (and BBC is harder to get US-centric stories).   

BTW, these are studies out of USC, UCLA, and various non-profits who come up with these conclusions.  If it were one researcher, that'd be one thing, but it is seen consistently in US based studies and UK based studies.

Again, News stories, not commentary or blog stuff.

OK, Whip . . . I am satisfied that my choices (please note, plural) will let me know if a mushroom cloud appears ovoer NYC, or not. If they tell me that it is the fault of XYZ, I'll likely filter that out, as I am familiar with the source, and do my own research.

You are not satisfied with them.


So it goes.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2014, 11:52:04 AM »
I'm not looking for reportage in the morning, Whip . . .

I'm looking for local weather, did our king, er, Mayor give away public property to some famous guy to build a museum on, and did we nuke/get nuked  by Syria type stuff for a quick check.
CNN, MSNBC, damn near everybody can supply that.

News, Whip. Not commentary. If I want commentary, I go to print, 8 times outa 10.


Yea,  I was referring to news reports.  Studies consistently show MSNBC has a pronounced bias in their NEWS reporting.  Sometimes worse than FoxNews, often equivalent.  CNN is better.  PBS, BBC rated better, but they're not as browser friendly for me at work. (and BBC is harder to get US-centric stories).   

BTW, these are studies out of USC, UCLA, and various non-profits who come up with these conclusions.  If it were one researcher, that'd be one thing, but it is seen consistently in US based studies and UK based studies.

Again, News stories, not commentary or blog stuff.

OK, Whip . . . I am satisfied that my choices (please note, plural) will let me know if a mushroom cloud appears ovoer NYC, or not. If they tell me that it is the fault of XYZ, I'll likely filter that out, as I am familiar with the source, and do my own research.

You are not satisfied with them.


So it goes.

Well, I was pretty satisfied with CNN... I didn't realize it wasn't considered a "reasonable source" any longer.  I had been a big fan of MSNBC, but they went wacky.  BBC is great, but I like more US centric stories on the homepage.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2014, 12:18:37 PM »
CNN.com. -contact us

I double-dog-dare you to ask them yourself!

Well, this doesn't look promising... :lol:

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2014, 12:40:20 PM »

Well, I was pretty satisfied with CNN... I didn't realize it wasn't considered a "reasonable source" any longer.  I had been a big fan of MSNBC, but they went wacky.  BBC is great, but I like more US centric stories on the homepage.

If you are serious about getting good information, do some research (beyond what you've done) . . . . look for a news source that has it's own, large, multinational, paid, world wide news gathering staff . . . . .

CNN and MSNBC aint it ;-}
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
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Well, this doesn't look promising... :lol:

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Agreed.  Looks like a brush off.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2014, 01:26:08 PM »
If you're wanting to debate % of worldwide sales of cell phones then Nokia/Symbian would have the lion's share of the market.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2014, 01:35:37 PM »
If you're wanting to debate % of worldwide sales of cell phones then Nokia/Symbian would have the lion's share of the market.

You can spin anyway you want at Alice's Restaurant.

Data please?  At least for "Smartphones" Android is world dominant (Many sources posted above).  Perhaps you're referring to "non" smartphones?  That would be apples and oranges since Android doesn't compete there, nor does Apple.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2014, 02:43:12 PM »
If you're wanting to debate % of worldwide sales of cell phones then Nokia/Symbian would have the lion's share of the market.

You can spin anyway you want at Alice's Restaurant.

Data please?  At least for "Smartphones" Android is world dominant (Many sources posted above).  Perhaps you're referring to "non" smartphones?  That would be apples and oranges since Android doesn't compete there, nor does Apple.

You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no 'Android' brand phone. It's an operating system on top of a vendor's hardware.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2014, 02:54:47 PM »
You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no 'Android' brand phone. It's an operating system on top of a vendor's hardware.

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This is a salient point . . . . .folks are interested, most of em, in features. If smart, benefits.

Rfemember the brazillions that Intel spent tryhing to get something from the branding on their processors? Didnt' do much for em, and they stopped.
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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2014, 03:07:22 PM »
If you're wanting to debate % of worldwide sales of cell phones then Nokia/Symbian would have the lion's share of the market.

You can spin anyway you want at Alice's Restaurant.

Data please?  At least for "Smartphones" Android is world dominant (Many sources posted above).  Perhaps you're referring to "non" smartphones?  That would be apples and oranges since Android doesn't compete there, nor does Apple.

You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no 'Android' brand phone. It's an operating system on top of a vendor's hardware.

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One can easily make an iOS v Android comparison.  Those are directly competing operating systems.  The fact that iOS is a completely closed architecture and Android is completely open (except in US carrier markets) are just one point of comparison of the marketing models from Apple and Google.   So yes.  You can directly compare an iOS (based) phone (has to be Apple) to an Android (based) phone (Samsung, HTC, Asus, whoever or the conglomerate)--especially if you're trying to compare consumer preference for operating systems.

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Re: I don't get it. Apple vs Google developers conf coverage.
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2014, 03:10:06 PM »
You're comparing apples and oranges. There is no 'Android' brand phone. It's an operating system on top of a vendor's hardware.

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This is a salient point . . . . .folks are interested, most of em, in features. If smart, benefits.

Rfemember the brazillions that Intel spent tryhing to get something from the branding on their processors? Didnt' do much for em, and they stopped.

No, that doesn't apply at all.  The Intel comparo would be if you were comparing Chipsets, which run the same OS.  Intel vs AMD for example or Intel vs Motorola with the same OS.   

Android v iOS is the same as Windows v OSX for example.