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Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« on: June 20, 2014, 05:30:39 AM »
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(Washington, DC) - U.S. Senators Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ron Johnson (R-WI), Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) introduced a bipartisan amendment to the Senate Transportation, Housing and Urban Development Appropriations bill that would prohibit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) from issuing grants to states for motorcycle-only checkpoints for one year. The amendment is similar to legislation introduced by the Senators earlier this year. The NHTSA initiated the Motorcycle Law Enforcement Demonstration Program in 2009, which provides states with funds to conduct discriminatory, motorcycle-only checkpoints where riders are specifically targeted by police to check that their vehicles meet state standards for noise, handlebar length, tire condition and a range of other legal requirements.

The bipartisan effort would block federal resources for one year from being used to fund these types of discriminatory motorcycle-only checkpoints. Currently, motorcycle riders are already subject to state registration, inspection, licensing and helmet laws and must stop at sobriety check points like all other motorists.

"Laconia Motorcycle Week in New Hampshire is a perfect reminder of how important motorcycles are to our state's identity and economy," Shaheen said. "These checkpoints unfairly discriminate against motorcyclists who already must comply with registration and inspection requirements like all motorists."

"I often hear Wisconsin motorcyclists refer to their passion for the ‘freedom of the road,'" Johnson said. "Unfortunately, those freedoms would be severally, and I would argue unconstitutionally, hindered by the presence of federally funded motorcycle-only checkpoints. Bikers should not be stopped, searched and inspected by law enforcement solely because they're on two wheels and not four."

"Requiring bikers to drive through motorcycle-only checkpoints is not only an ineffective use of taxpayer dollars, but it also raises legitimate questions about discrimination against motorcyclists," Manchin said. "In West Virginia, bikers travel near and far to drive on our winding roads and enjoy the beautiful scenery, which attracts tourism and helps boost both our local and state economies. As a Harley owner myself, I am pleased to work with my colleagues on this bipartisan legislation that simply would prohibit yet another senseless and unreasonable federal regulation which could harm states' economies."

"With motorcyclists from across the region in New Hampshire this week for Laconia Motorcycle Week, we renew our opposition to the use of federal funds to pay for discriminatory motorcycle-only checkpoints," Ayotte said. "Motorcyclists shouldn't be unfairly targeted just because they're driving a motorcycle and not a car, and our amendment would protect their rights to abide by the same laws as other motor vehicles."

Evidence suggests that motorcycle-only checkpoints do not effectively reduce motorcycle injuries or fatalities and do not address the factors that are the main contributors to motorcycle accidents. Accordingly, NHTSA does not list the practice in its own 2013 Highway Safety Countermeasure Guide for State Highway Offices, which details policies and activities that the agency considers effective at reducing crash injuries and fatalities.

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 06:03:47 AM »
Sounds good to me.
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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 07:11:24 AM »
Sounds good to me too.
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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 07:54:18 AM »

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Evidence suggests that motorcycle-only checkpoints do not effectively reduce motorcycle injuries or fatalities and do not address the factors that are the main contributors to motorcycle accidents.


That wasn't why they were being stopped unless I missed a different article somewhere.

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...which provides states with funds to conduct discriminatory, motorcycle-only checkpoints where riders are specifically targeted by police to check that their vehicles meet state standards for noise, handlebar length, tire condition and a range of other legal requirements.


The noise one is an easy pull and ticket. Loud? Pull and check for the label on the pipes. Ticket or impound.

But yea, no motorcycle specific checkpoints.

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2014, 09:15:14 AM »
The AMA has been warning us for years about the group of politicians that want us all to conform to their idea of motorcyclist. I think this has a lot to do with "the bar crowd, loud pipes and ape hangers and there riding style". A large group of bikers can be a scary thing if your a politician you know, just look at what they do in DC every Memorial weekend! Loud or other wise I see us all as good American citizens and as such should be free to ride with out special policing. But what do I know.  ;D 

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2014, 09:39:30 AM »
Loud Pipes Risk Rights. 

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 12:31:24 AM »
Can you imagine the hissy fits if there were Prius only checkpoints?
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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 01:00:16 AM »
The AMA has been warning us for years about the group of politicians that want us all to conform to their idea of motorcyclist. I think this has a lot to do with "the bar crowd, loud pipes and ape hangers and there riding style". A large group of bikers can be a scary thing if your a politician you know, just look at what they do in DC every Memorial weekend! Loud or other wise I see us all as good American citizens and as such should be free to ride with out special policing. But what do I know.  ;D

I'll have to look, but what is the definition of "their kind of motorcyclist"? At the moment, the only thing that impacts me is the loud, illegal, pipes. Honestly, ape hangers and bar hopping posers really aren't a problem.

Consider jacked up pickups. Should they be singled out? There are special height restrictions that keep cars from running under a truck and having the trailer hitch (plus the fake testicles) end up in your eye.

Granted, in a majority of loud pipe cases, it's quality of life that's at issue. Sitting in my back yard, it's always pleasant to hear the idiot behind me start his Harley and rev the shit out of it setting off car alarms as he blatts down the street. But it's not much worse than the other three idiots who can't seem to keep their dogs under control, and at least the idiot on the bike is gone.

I agree though, there doesn't need to be a special stop. A cop can run through several ticket books by simply walking down a row of bikes. Any without the federal stamp gets a ticket, $500 for the first offense in Denver. $999 for the second.

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 08:52:41 AM »
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"Laconia Motorcycle Week in New Hampshire is a perfect reminder of how important motorcycles are to our state's identity and economy,"
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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 09:05:21 AM »
This is great news.  But to be honest if motorcyclists want to eliminate bike only check points maybe we need to police ourselves?  They wouldn't have these checkpoints if they didn't net revenue. So I don't know maybe riders should stop with the stupid overly loud pipes, hiding plates, eliminating lights, not having insurance and riding stolen bikes. Just saying.

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 10:20:27 AM »
This is great news.  But to be honest if motorcyclists want to eliminate bike only check points maybe we need to police ourselves?  They wouldn't have these checkpoints if they didn't net revenue. So I don't know maybe riders should stop with the stupid overly loud pipes, hiding plates, eliminating lights, not having insurance and riding stolen bikes. Just saying.

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 01:14:51 PM »
The AMA has been warning us for years about the group of politicians that want us all to conform to their idea of motorcyclist. I think this has a lot to do with "the bar crowd, loud pipes and ape hangers and there riding style". A large group of bikers can be a scary thing if your a politician you know, just look at what they do in DC every Memorial weekend! Loud or other wise I see us all as good American citizens and as such should be free to ride with out special policing. But what do I know.  ;D

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Re: Movement on the motorcycle-only checkpoints
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 07:36:37 PM »
Can you imagine the hissy fits if there were Prius only checkpoints?

Rolling roadblocks should be cited.....

I've read many different versions justifying the MC checkpoints. Safety, drugs, legal paperwork possession, even harrassment on general principle because, ya know, motorcyclists are deviant from the norms of society and must be scrutinized before they're allowed to be present in decent society. A brother-in-law who was once a small town sheriff in Wyoming gave that last one. He didn't agree with it but the locals gave him that task. Go figger.

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