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Having a shaft failure on a trip would suck too much to chance it.

Huh? Shaft drives have been around a long time, or are you speaking with direct experience with the 1200?

 I just like the idea of being able to see what kind of condition my chain is in instead of wondering what my shaft is like inside that housing, and yes the VFR1200F has had shaft failure issues just like many other shafties.

 I really don't mind spraying some chain lube on at the end of the day.

yea, too bad I can't get a car with chain drive...

 Why in the hell would you want that? You can actually see (and service) the driveshafts on most cars it's not hidden inside a housing.

 Ask anyone who's had a sudden catastrophic shaft failure on a bike how much fun it was, and how cheap/easy it was to fix. I've rarely hear of anyone having a sudden catastrophic failure on a properly maintained chain.

oh, you would be surprised, I've seen several broken cases from a chain failure. Why would a shaft be any more prone to failure than say the transmission/crank/valve train? not picking on you specifically, just wonder the thought process behind some of these things? I prefer a chain (gearing options) but why do people have this fear of technology on bikes, yet would accept nothing less in a car?

 How many of those broken cases were from a poorly maintained chain or one that was run far beyond it's useful service life? Have you ever seen the remains of a bike shaft after it fails? For that matter have you ever seen a bike shaft? They are tiny little suckers with non-serviceable joints.

 Comparing automotive driveshafts to bikes is pretty much apples to oranges. Fear of technology has nothing to do with it. I simply prefer to be able to tell the condition of my final drive at a glance, and replace it in 30min for $300 when it's due.

but if it was my money...  that's a lot of accessories you could buy w/ the savings and I'd take the gear driven cams over the steenking vtec version every time. 

The 1200 does not have the Gears, but it is not a VTEC, if I am reading things right. The new 800 is a friendlier and kinder VTEC, according to sources close to the internet.

The shaft on the C14 is easily seen by removing like one bolt.  It also takes much less time to remove than a chain is the need arises.

Hell, I took mine out just to see what was involved.  Looks plenty serviceable to me.   


No need to fear non-BMW shaft driven bikes.   

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Oh....get the 800.

The beauty of motorcycles is there are a crap-load of different bikes so you can choose what motorcycle blows your skirt up.   

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The beauty of motorcycles is there are a crap-load of different bikes so you can choose what motorcycle blows your skirt up.   

 Everyone except the ones that want the sub 500lb 1000+ cc shaft-driven ABS Ohlins-suspended touring bike for under $10K.

Ooooh! Throw in V4 and I'm in!


On second thought; I can do without the ABS and shaft drive................................and the touren. 

Begone you troll, I vanquish you from these parts! Poof! 

Just for the record, way back when the Interceptor wuz first introduced, I almost bought one but, chose a 1984 FJ 1100 instead.

I never regretted the purchase as the FJ was a fantastic sport touring mount.

Now that I'm on the downhill side of my riding career, I have a feeling that I need to own at least one Honda before kicking the bucket.