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Offline Rincewind

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2014, 12:12:54 PM »
I had maybe 4-5 consecutive flip-up helmets over the years.  I liked not having to remove my glasses.  And I liked being able to flip it up right before sneezing.

Last summer, the night before a multi-day trip, the latch got jammed and the helmet wouldn't open anymore.  I ended up buying a full-face with retractable visor and I don't regret it.

I've had other flip-ups helmets quit latching right on me before, sometimes just from getting knocked onto its side.  I also got tired of slamming it down across my face all the time, and then always checking to make sure it was latched right.  My last one was a real PITA to attach my BT com, because the flip-part took up most of the side of the helmet.

Sure, it's nice to flip it out of the way when stopped in hot weather - but it does make you look stupid when it's up like that.  Yes, really. 

I can deal with removing my glasses and sneezing onto the chin bar.  I can deal with not worrying about the latch.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2014, 12:31:31 PM »
Sure, it's nice to flip it out of the way when stopped in hot weather - but it does make you look stupid when it's up like that.  Yes, really. 


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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2014, 12:49:41 PM »
Like my Multitec but it's noisy. Might try the Shark next time.

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2014, 01:08:29 PM »
Like my Multitec but it's noisy. Might try the Shark next time.

The Schuberth C3 is very quite.  I can ride naked bikes and wear no ear protection whatsoever (with clean air).  But, I don't believe it vents as well as other lids.  It can be steamy on warm days.

When I go to replace the C3, I'll most likely go with the Neotec.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2014, 01:11:01 PM »
Like my Multitec but it's noisy. Might try the Shark next time.

The Sharks are cheap right now because they're on closeout. I guess they're coming out with a new model. I have one, but I'm in the same place as vulcanbill -- I haven't worn it enough  to make a judgment. The Multitec is much more comfortable but that has more to do with the shape of my head than the design of the helmet. Whoever designed my skull was an amateur.

I don't think it's much quieter than the Shoei, but I'm on an FJR with a large aftermarket screen. Not a good test bed for comparing noise levels.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2014, 01:41:08 PM »
Great for glasses and talking to other riders/people at quick stops.

Yes but...

I tried one, an HJC symax? I think? I still have it actually. I'm a general fan of HJC but this one I didn't like. Heavy, noisy, and felt very cheaply made. I only half trust that the chin bar won't un-latch and expose my face in a crash, probably just in my head, but I feel safer with a FF. I did like being able to flip it up at a stop light on hot days, but that was the only thing I liked.

Exactly my thoughts. I have a Symax but wore it under 5 times. 

A friend was taken out but a cager crossing the yellow. He glanced off the driver door's "A" pillar but luckily he was wearing a full face.   Still had a concussion and bloody mouth from the impact.  In my opinion, a flip up would have blown off with that type of impact.

I had a Caberg Justissimo as my first flip helmet YEARS AND YEARS ago, which was a little heavy and a little noisy, but the SHoei Neotec is quiet when looking straight ahead, and does not appear heavy, compared to my ridiculously expensive Arai Corsair or my $100 Scorpion EXO-1000.

By the way, the Caberg, the Neotec and the Scorpion (which is not a full face) all had the flip down sun visor, which is the best addition to a helmet ever.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2014, 02:23:11 PM »
I have the Shark Evoline 2 and the jury is still out.  I haven't done enough riding to really spend any quality time with it.  It's different that a flip up in that it's a true convertible helmet.  The chinbar actually swings back and sits on the back of the helmet.
So basically, you can ride at speed w/ a 3/4 helmet configuration without having your head torn off.  It's heavy but when riding around town it is nice to just flip it over and be in 3/4 mode.  Back on the highway, just reach back and flip it down and lock it.
The locking takes more than a standard flip helmet to latch as there is a down movement then a back movement to fully lock it.  I need to spend more time with it to give a fully informed review.  And since I'm a bit of a helmet whore, I have many choices.  We'll see.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/shark-evoline-series-2/

There are newer models out.


Interested in your take on this one. Looking forward to a "fully informed review"
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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2014, 06:08:09 PM »

I had a Nolan flip-up years ago and swore that I would NEVER go back to a full face helmet.

Then I got a new bike, and I realized how crazy loud it was, and now I only wear a full face again.

I'd say it depends upon you and your bike and the wind protection in relation to your head.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2014, 12:53:02 AM »
I wear both types. For serious, long haul riding, it's the Schuberth S1 full-face. For local, go-fer runs, it's a Nolan N-103. I also have a Caberg full-face (great sun visor, noisy and poor ventilation - OK for longer local riding spring and fall) and a Caberg Justissimo (great sun visor, noisy, poor venting, now sitting in its box). I've also worn Schuberth C1 & 2. I sold both (mostly noise issues and some fit concerns). The S1 is the second one I bought. #1 wore out. #2 is the Druidi (great graphics, with reflective bits), which is beginning to show its age. I'll miss it when it's time to hang it up.

I agree that flip-ups are better with on-and-off situations. I have yet to find one that's quiet enough, even with good phones or plugs. Ditto for really meaningful ventilation. My K1200RS, with the windshield down gives lots of air flow that, AFAIK, isn't all the chaotic. NTL, these helmets are generally too noisy for slabbing.

The S1 is the quietest helmet and has fair ventilation. I wish I could find a quiet, well ventilated helmet with the Caberg silvered sun visor (most internal visors aren't dense enough for my needs). I wish I could find a pound of $20 bills, too.  :bigsmile:

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2014, 06:36:52 AM »
I sold my C3 last weekend and rode my bike 40 miles to my dealer wearing my old Arai Quantum II full face with no ear protection.  I picked up a new Shoei Neotec and wore it home.  I couldn't tell the difference in wind noise between the two. 


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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2014, 11:29:15 AM »
Glasses wearer that wore Shoei RF's for years. Was a firm believer, amen. Then tried a modular. Never going back. Evah. Not gonna do it.

Wind noise? Just don't wear earplugs. The tinnitus will cover up that wind noise just fine in no time at all.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2014, 11:31:24 AM »
Well DOH!!! I just woke up to seeing the C1 in avatar. I liked the concept, thought the sun visor was too narrow (glare up from the road was an issue), and thought it a bit noisy. OTOH, ventilation was very good and well managed. The C2 was, in fact, a step backward from that. I really should scrounge a C3 from my BMW dealer - they have test helmets available.
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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2014, 02:45:02 PM »
Just got an N104 with Ncom. It remains to be seen whether I can connect more than the GPS. I've never thought it was a good idea for me to have distractions while riding, but long hauls on the slab might pass more quickly with some music. Not sure the Ncom will do that.

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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2014, 07:50:46 AM »
I looked at the 104 but just couldn't pull the trigger.

For comms, Sena's SMH10 is da bomb. Now that sidetone (you hear yourself - same thing that a phone does) is supported, life is very good. I have a Zumo 660, it's a bad Bluetooth citizen. NTL Sena has worked hard to get around the Zumo's miserable Bluetooth implementation.
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Re: Flip-face helmets
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2014, 11:48:03 AM »
I was rear-ended at a stop sign once, while wearing a flip face helmet.  I went over the bars and landed on my back when I tucked.  I hit the back of the helmet.  The flip face stayed latched and operated completely normally after that.  That's about the only data I have on it.   I still prefer flip face helmets for all the reasons listed.