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2020 MotoGP Thread
« on: November 18, 2019, 04:38:20 PM »
Might as well start things off.

Alex Marquez to join his brother on the Repsol Honda team.

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Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 06:44:04 PM »

Alex Marquez to join his brother on the Repsol Honda team.

Discuss.

Really didn't see that coming. Would have been nice for Cal to finally get the factory seat, but competition at that level isn't about nice. My money, like most, was on Zarco. But Alex? 

Well, about a year ago I was thinking, "I wonder why they signed Quartararo?" So, yeah, I won't be anyone's talent scout.

Read some harsh words from Aleix Espargaro about Zarco, saying he doesn't deserve the best bike on the best team when he walked away from a problem bike. He pointed out that he and his brother have been on frustrating bikes (and Pol rode the KTM much better) but stuck it out because it's their job. He was supportive of Alex getting the ride and said either Pol or himself deserved it more than Zarco.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 08:51:43 PM »
Like you, my initial reaction was surprise that Alex would get the Repsol ride. But after further thought, it makes more sense.

Honda didn't have a lot of options because the entire field is in the middle of contracts that expire after next year.

Crutchlow? He's probably going to retire after next year. So one year putting up with a rider who is blunt in his criticism of the bike and crashes a lot. You know there's no long-term future there, so why put up with the bother for one year?

Zarco? If he couldn't adapt to the KTM, there's reason to fear he would not be able to adapt to the Honda. Actually, nobody but Marquez has, just as nobody but Stoner could win races on the Ducati. If Lorenzo and the Honda were a mismatch made well south of heaven, then Zarco and the Honda seem an even more unlikely match.

Bautista? Honda needs him more in WSBK, don't they? Plus, his second-half meltdown didn't burnish his reputation.

Alex Marquez just won the Moto2 title, and the obvious thing to do after that is move up to MotoGP. Clearly, moving to a factory team, even the top factory team, is not the obvious thing. But I can see the logic in Honda's decision. There's one person in the world who can ride their bike to victory consistently. This decision keeps that one man happy and it's not like they had an obviously better option.

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 09:30:04 PM »
Honda is hedging their bet by only signing Alex to a one year contract. That puts them in playfor 2021.
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Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2019, 08:28:55 AM »
MM to KTM in 2024, you heard it here first.....

as for 2020 I hope Zarco finds something, I think he has potential. I wish Rossi the best but realistically this will probably be his final year. MM will continue to dominate. Quatraro will replace Dovi as the bridesmaid and Rins will win a couple races.

My thoughts anyway, but I could be wrong because: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/south-dakota-ads-suggest-people-from-the-state-are-on-meth.html
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 01:04:17 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 08:41:16 AM »
MM to KTM in 2024, you heard it here first.....

as for 2020 I hope Zarco finds something,...

From Spanish Press - Johann Zarco  will continue next season at MotoGP after reaching an agreement with Ducati to pilot the satellite Desmosedici of Avintia Racing. The team of  Raul Romero  has extended for two years and with best material agreement with Ducati and that has led Zarco to finally accept a proposal that had initially rejected.

The news is not yet official but the Italian press takes it for granted and points out that Zarco's  first test  with the colors of Ducati Avintia will be next week in Jerez.  Paolo Ciabatti and Gigi Dall'Igna  convinced the French driver after the last race in Valencia. Zarco will have a Desmosedici GP19, with extensive factory technical support.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2019, 08:44:53 AM »
ugh, I hope it goes better than KTM, but he already stated it was not a good team and the Duc doesn't appear to fit his riding style. I wish him luck.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2019, 01:26:54 PM »
ugh, I hope it goes better than KTM, but he already stated it was not a good team and the Duc doesn't appear to fit his riding style. I wish him luck.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2019, 01:58:18 PM »
true, and the fact he is almost 30 isn't helping I'm sure
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2019, 05:44:18 PM »
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?
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Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2019, 12:38:01 PM »
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?

Abraham said he had too. Guess it will boil down to who can bring the most coin...

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2019, 01:20:55 PM »
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?

Abraham said he had too. Guess it will boil down to who can bring the most coin...

Huh, hadn't heard that. Well, I guess that would be Abraham. It'll be interesting to watch that play out.
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Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2019, 05:50:20 PM »

Abraham said he had too.

In the MotoGP paddock, contracts are worth the paper they are written on.

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2019, 07:36:58 PM »
Glad to see Abraham go. I know MotoGP is expensive and bringing sponsorship money means a lot, but his daddy bought him his years in MotoGP. He sure as hell didn't deserve a ride based on his merits as a rider. Look at his results: one win and one third (both in Moto2) across all three classes.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2019, 10:42:06 AM »
Zarco officially signs with Ducati to race on the Avintia team (which is now an official satellite team) for 2020. He will be on a 2019 bike.

It will be interesting to see how he does (top 10s?) and if he can beat out Miller, Petrucci, et.al. for the 2021 factory seat.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2019, 10:50:33 AM »
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2019, 03:21:51 PM »
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...

Perhaps. But remember that Jorge went on a mid-season tear on the 2018 Ducati, so whatever they figured for him and his riding style would (hopefully) apply to Zarco. He probably won't be getting a bunch of new stuff to constantly try, so it should be a relatively stable platform with lots of data from this year. Maybe he'll do OK. It'd be nice to have a mix of guys fighting for podiums.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2019, 03:45:17 PM »
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...

Perhaps. But remember that Jorge went on a mid-season tear on the 2018 Ducati, so whatever they figured for him and his riding style would (hopefully) apply to Zarco. He probably won't be getting a bunch of new stuff to constantly try, so it should be a relatively stable platform with lots of data from this year. Maybe he'll do OK. It'd be nice to a mix of guys fighting for podiums.

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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2019, 08:54:32 AM »
Now if only Zarco would learn to keep his mouth shut... 
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2019, 10:32:39 AM »
Now if only Zarco would learn to keep his mouth shut...

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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2019, 12:59:26 PM »
I like Zarco and he definitely has talent, but I think he may be a bit more fragile mentally than most of the others?
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 11:48:59 PM »
Looks like 2020 will start without Iannone. He's indefinitely suspended for failing a drug test. Some kind of anabolic steroid.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2019, 06:16:42 AM »
Looks like 2020 will start without Iannone. He's indefinitely suspended for failing a drug test. Some kind of anabolic steroid.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test

I saw in the MotoGP article that he can be present for the testing of the "B" sample (or whatever the process is). He claims on social media that he's been tested all year with no issues and this is just a false positive.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2019, 02:12:02 PM »
Jorge offered role of Yamaha test rider

https://motomatters.com/news/2019/12/18/jorge_lorenzo_to_return_to_motogp.html

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2020, 08:25:55 AM »
Strike two for Iannone:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

My favored line from the article: "Since drostanolone is commonly used as a bodybuilding drug it is seen as being of little obvious benefit in the 'lean' world of MotoGP."

Yes, but what about the "shirtless photo with famous girlfriend world of Instagram," which is where Iannnone is truly competitive? Maybe that was his priority?
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Yes, but what about the "shirtless photo with famous girlfriend world of Instagram," which is where Iannnone is truly competitive? Maybe that was his priority?

 :lol:  I really did laugh out loud at that.

His attorney is still trying to push the contaminated food explanation. I don't think it's going to work for him.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 09:22:17 PM »
The problem for Iannone is that with these proceedings the burden of proof is on him to prove he ate contaminated meat. It's not a case of "innocent until proven guilty." Proving that something you ate months ago was contaminated in an unusual way is obviously a difficult task.

As usual, David Emmett at Motomatters had a thorough report, if anyone hasn't seen it yet and is interested.

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