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Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« on: June 12, 2019, 11:53:50 AM »
KwikTrip gas stations in WI are selling "Unleaded 88" gas - which is ACTUALLY E15.
It is cheaper than their E10, 87 octane 'regular'.

There's been a news article about it confusing customers: https://www.tmj4.com/news/i-team/new-e15-gas-fueling-confusion-at-the-pump
Federal law makes it illegal to use E15 gas in motorcycles, and; buses and delivery trucks, off road vehicles, boats and snowmobiles, as well as yard tools like chainsaws, snowblowers and lawnmowers.

FYI car mpg decreases about 1.67 percent with E15 gas vs E10.

The worse part about it for me is they are selling the E15 instead of 89 octane mid-grade gas. That is what I run in both my Scout and BMW F800.

I like KwikTrips. They have plenty of pumps that are well spaced out. They are clean and have have a good variety of food (including hot) and products. They have the cheapest bananas I've ever seen ($0.29!).
But I can't go there for gas anymore... just for snacks, food, drinks and clean bathrooms.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 01:53:05 PM »
Higher octane, lower price. Win - win. Right?

I’m seeing the same thing here at the Sheetz stations.
( About 600 locations. )
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2019, 02:56:31 PM »
I've noticed this conundrum in Wisconsin.  Ethanol contamination also seems to be an issue in Minnesota, where at one station there was a sticker on the only pump with pure gas stating something to the effect that it is for specialty vehicles only.  I now consider my Little Red Ninja and our cars to all be specialty vehicles.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »
It is confusinger
I went for a ride today  (YEA MOTORCYCLES!)
I scouted KwikTrips in Lake Mills, Lodi and Merton.   None of them had the confusing 88 octane (E15) gas.
But they didn't have mid-grade E10 gas either...

Oh, and, the smoothie machine at the Lodi station is out-of-order.   I saw the one at Lake Mills, and thought it'd be good on a hot day...  it turned out to be a hot day...
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2019, 12:14:31 PM »
Ammendum
Kwik Trip is asking WI State Legislators to allow partial misfueling, via bills AB 382/SB 349.
The use of E15 in ATV/UTV, boat, small engine, snowmobile, motorcycle or car engine not certified for it is prohibited by the EPA.
Kwik Trip is asking legislators to allow ethanol blends that are higher than E10 in pumps that have multiple fuels dispensing from one hose & nozzle.   This practice could allow consumers to get up to 1 gallon of the fuel that the previous customer purchased, rather than the product that they are selecting and paying for.  This practice would allow consumers to unknowingly violate Federal Law, risk catastrophic engine failure and void their warranty.
A product that is not legal or safe to use in all (most) vehicles should have its own nozzle, just as required for diesel fuel and E85!

Info taken from  http://cqrcengage.com/mrf/app/write-a-letter?0&engagementId=502801
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 01:36:42 PM »
I'm sticking with my non ethanol 91 octane from Holiday  ;D
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2020, 01:20:35 PM »
They make identifying the nosles confusing and have to look closely to pick the rite one.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 08:15:01 AM »
Regular grade for the bike and super for the RS3. It's all they call for so it's what they get.

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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2020, 09:44:51 PM »
They make identifying the nosles confusing and have to look closely to pick the rite one.
I've encountered a pump that had the nozzles in the wrong holder/position.    It hurt my brain to figure out what the futhermock was/had gone on.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2020, 03:34:24 AM »
Federal law makes it illegal to use E15 gas in motorcycles, and; buses and delivery trucks, off road vehicles, boats and snowmobiles, as well as yard tools like chainsaws, snowblowers and lawnmowers.

Is it “illegal” or just bad?  You can put what you want in the tank...you just live with the consequences.  Now, if an attendant pumps the gas, I could see the need for the law.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 11:43:33 AM »
Federal law makes it illegal to use E15 gas in motorcycles, and; buses and delivery trucks, off road vehicles, boats and snowmobiles, as well as yard tools like chainsaws, snowblowers and lawnmowers.

Is it “illegal” or just bad?  You can put what you want in the tank...you just live with the consequences.  Now, if an attendant pumps the gas, I could see the need for the law.

Illegal illegal.
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federal law makes it flat-out illegal to use E15 gas in a list of engines. E15 is off limits to motorcycles, buses and delivery trucks, off road vehicles, boats and snowmobiles, as well as yard tools like chainsaws, snowblowers and lawnmowers.
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Re: Confusing gas at WI KwikTrips
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 09:05:58 PM »
I’m in MN, and frequent Wisconsin.  I like Kwik Trips, and am not bothered by the E-15 BS, since they always have 91 non-oxy “recreational” fuel.  Fuck the sticker, I run it in my cars too. I will not buy ethanol.  You can’t make me.