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Yep- still working on this issue.  The computers all came with Windows 8 installed, we installed 8.1.

We need to install Win 7 in order to give standardized tests.  Now that we have an image of 8.1 that works, it should be easy enough to create a Win 7 image, then roll back to Win 8 when we want.

The issue is licensing.  I was told that in order to roll back to Win 7 we need to actually purchase the Win 8 license, which will allow us to freely roll back to Win 7.  Having the computers pre-installed with Win 8 is not the same as having the licenses.

Does that make sense or are they trying to hose us?  Thanks!
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Re: Can I legally install Win 7 if the machine came with Win 8 preinstalled?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 01:23:50 PM »
I have seen some weird shite where you actually buy a windows 8.1 machine and then have to pay extra on top of to get windows 7 instead...

damn Microsoft... :gerg:

THat being said you should be able to replace 8 with 7 as long as you have a licensed copy of 7...I did..

But since your rolling back between not sure how that works..but it is different for MS having pre-installed and owning the license..

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Re: Can I legally install Win 7 if the machine came with Win 8 preinstalled?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 01:26:00 PM »
It depends on what version of win 8 is installed on the PC.
If it came originally with an OEM Win 8 Pro license, Microsoft allows the downgrade to Win 7 Pro.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/261767/microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_windows_8_to_windows_7_vista.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230815/Microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_Windows_8_to_Windows_7_Vista

The license doesn't allow downgrades of other (ie Home or Home Premium) versions of Windows.
Neither Microsoft nor the EOM have to support the downgrade nor have supply the media. You have to provide your own.

I believe Enterprise versions of Windows are allowed to downgrade as long as you remain with the equivalent in Windows 7 to any version of Windows.
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Unlike consumers or small businesses, corporations armed with enterprise licensing agreements, including the annuity-like Software Assurance, are allowed to downgrade from any version of Windows to any previous edition.
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Re: Can I legally install Win 7 if the machine came with Win 8 preinstalled?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 01:39:26 PM »
It depends on what version of win 8 is installed on the PC.
If it came originally with an OEM Win 8 Pro license, Microsoft allows the downgrade to Win 7 Pro.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/261767/microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_windows_8_to_windows_7_vista.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230815/Microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_Windows_8_to_Windows_7_Vista

The license doesn't allow downgrades of other (ie Home or Home Premium) versions of Windows.
Neither Microsoft nor the EOM have to support the downgrade nor have supply the media. You have to provide your own.
I believe Enterprise versions of Windows are allowed as long as you remain with the equivalent in Windows 7.


Bingo.  I think I just found this answer on the Microsoft website as well:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=VZfVlgJX5ck
We have 8.1, not 8.1 pro, so we are not downgradeable without purchasing the licenses.   :crazy:
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Re: Can I legally install Win 7 if the machine came with Win 8 preinstalled?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 01:43:54 PM »
You need to get your district on a campus agreement, or whatever they call it for k-12 now. Pay per FTE and install whatever the hell you want. Well, as far as desktop OS goes. Server licenses are dirt cheap, though.

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Re: Can I legally install Win 7 if the machine came with Win 8 preinstalled?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 03:43:27 PM »
It depends on what version of win 8 is installed on the PC.
If it came originally with an OEM Win 8 Pro license, Microsoft allows the downgrade to Win 7 Pro.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/261767/microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_windows_8_to_windows_7_vista.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230815/Microsoft_will_allow_downgrades_from_Windows_8_to_Windows_7_Vista

The license doesn't allow downgrades of other (ie Home or Home Premium) versions of Windows.
Neither Microsoft nor the EOM have to support the downgrade nor have supply the media. You have to provide your own.
I believe Enterprise versions of Windows are allowed as long as you remain with the equivalent in Windows 7.


Bingo.  I think I just found this answer on the Microsoft website as well:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=VZfVlgJX5ck
We have 8.1, not 8.1 pro, so we are not downgradeable without purchasing the licenses.   :crazy:


I have found, during the 2 times I have tried to get Microsoft help, is that their idea of support is for you to buy something. End of story.
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