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Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« on: January 13, 2014, 11:16:46 AM »
I wanted to extend the usefulness of my Gerbings jacket, so I can use it away from the bike, and bought a Gerbings battery. Not cheap. The battery lasts 20-30 minutes, depending on the power setting, before it gives up the ghost. I ring Gerbings and they point out that, yes, it will run a jacket but only for 40-50 minutes (,ore than I'm getting but still not enough). It's rated at 5200MaH-should have remebered my schoolboy physics.

Are there any other lithium batteries out there that might do the job? I'm looking a lithium batteries for mopeds and scooters but they might be a tad bulky.

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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 02:21:25 PM »
Why don't you see if you can jerry rig a cordless drill battery?
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 02:38:08 PM »
I saw someone with a 12v m/c battery strapped to the rear rack powering his passenger's gear.
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 04:59:23 PM »
Wait -- can this lithium batter serve in lieu of a couple of bannanas if Pop forgets his meds?
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 06:15:39 PM »
Mmm...lithium batter... :drool:
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 12:58:25 AM »
ask a sensible question..........
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 06:49:01 AM »
You could always just add an extra smaller more manageable sized battery in parallel. 

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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 08:12:37 AM »
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 10:17:10 AM »
ask a sensible question..........

Why start now?
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 10:54:57 AM »
I wanted to extend the usefulness of my Gerbings jacket, so I can use it away from the bike,

[...]

I'm looking a lithium batteries for mopeds and scooters but they might be a tad bulky.

Known: The current battery does not supply sufficient juice for the length of time you wish to have heat.

Where do you plan to be when wanting heat from the jacket? Working in a shop (somewhat moving around with 110v AC nearby)? Standing in one spot (construction zone flagger) for long durations? Were you planning to wear this battery set to have mobility?

Essentially, can you supplement battery power with corded power from wall power (to converter to 14vDC)? When in the shop, be connected to corded power to supply heat and to recharge an on-person battery but have it such that you can easily unplug for on-battery mobility?

If you're in a set location (or maybe one with a shortish cord), go with a large, not-constantly-mobile battery (car battery that gets recharged nightly)?
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 11:01:52 AM »
I wanted to extend the usefulness of my Gerbings jacket, so I can use it away from the bike,

[...]

I'm looking a lithium batteries for mopeds and scooters but they might be a tad bulky.

Known: The current battery does not supply sufficient juice for the length of time you wish to have heat.

Where do you plan to be when wanting heat from the jacket? Working in a shop (somewhat moving around with 110v AC nearby)? Standing in one spot (construction zone flagger) for long durations? Were you planning to wear this battery set to have mobility?

Essentially, can you supplement battery power with corded power from wall power (to converter to 14vDC)? When in the shop, be connected to corded power to supply heat and to recharge an on-person battery but have it such that you can easily unplug for on-battery mobility?

If you're in a set location (or maybe one with a shortish cord), go with a large, not-constantly-mobile battery (car battery that gets recharged nightly)?

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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 12:59:52 PM »
There are battery powered heated clothing out there. They usually use less power, give off less heat, so the batteries last longer. I have friend who use them for hunting/walking and they claim 7 to 8 hours continuous use.

The vest you have is designed to use power from a 12v charging system. Power consumption, per design, isn't really a problem unless you go over what the charging system can deliver.  IMO you would have to carry a large motorcycle battery with you to have a decent duration. A car or truck battery would even be better. You could pull it along in one of these:
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 11:17:18 AM »
The vest he has is also designed to deal with constant 60 mph wind chill.  I calculate it'll take a whole lot less power at walking speed(s).
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 12:38:11 PM »
There are battery powered heated clothing out there. They usually use less power, give off less heat, so the batteries last longer. I have friend who use them for hunting/walking and they claim 7 to 8 hours continuous use.

We bought the Mobile Warming vests so we could wear them at football games and other events along with motorcycle riding. We have had one battery go bad but otherwise have been very happy with the results.

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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2014, 03:20:39 PM »
We bought the Mobile Warming vests so we could wear them at football games and other events along with motorcycle riding. We have had one battery go bad but otherwise have been very happy with the results.
Do they run off of 12V as well?  That'd be a 'cool' investment.
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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2014, 03:28:38 PM »
Of course not. If they did that they couldn't sell you their proprietary batteries.

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Re: Lithium batteries and heated jackets
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 07:31:31 AM »
Not sure what voltage you need,If it runs on 12v, this would work. If it can handle up to 17v, this would be ideal.
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