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2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« on: February 27, 2019, 08:38:54 PM »
Regardless of what we do here; I'll be doing the official MotoGP league again. What say the rest of the dregs?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 08:41:23 PM »
I'll be back to defend my half of the 2018 crown.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 08:18:21 AM »
I'm in! you need backmarkers right?
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2019, 08:51:06 AM »
In!
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 08:22:19 AM »
In!

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »
I need the other bookend.
I'm in! And still chairing the trophy committee.

As usual, there's nothing on the motogp.com site yet...
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2019, 08:06:16 AM »
I'll be back to defend my half of the 2018 crown.

Ditto. Lots of fun, but also hard work to stay on track.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 04:25:01 PM »
In case (in hope) we have any new participants this year, be sure to give me your forum name and MotoGP registration name so I can add you to the STO leader board once scores start rolling in. Should we post a notice in the general discussion forum to invite people to play, just in case they don't regularly check Pit Row?

Also, at the end of last season I think we all eventually came to a consensus that we would create a tie-breaker: If two of us ended the season with identical points, as Biking Sailor and I did last year, then the person who got the most points at the last round would win. If they tied that round, then go back one more round, etc.

Are we all agreed on that approach to a tie-breaker?
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 04:33:20 PM »
In case (in hope) we have any new participants this year, be sure to give me your forum name and MotoGP registration name so I can add you to the STO leader board once scores start rolling in. Should we post a notice in the general discussion forum to invite people to play, just in case they don't regularly check Pit Row?

Also, at the end of last season I think we all eventually came to a consensus that we would create a tie-breaker: If two of us ended the season with identical points, as Biking Sailor and I did last year, then the person who got the most points at the last round would win. If they tied that round, then go back one more round, etc.

Are we all agreed on that approach to a tie-breaker?

Sounds good to me! And thank you for efforts scoring the league,

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2019, 06:27:13 PM »
Yea vote on the tie-breaker.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2019, 08:50:55 PM »
In case (in hope) we have any new participants this year, be sure to give me your forum name and MotoGP registration name so I can add you to the STO leader board once scores start rolling in. Should we post a notice in the general discussion forum to invite people to play, just in case they don't regularly check Pit Row?

Also, at the end of last season I think we all eventually came to a consensus that we would create a tie-breaker: If two of us ended the season with identical points, as Biking Sailor and I did last year, then the person who got the most points at the last round would win. If they tied that round, then go back one more round, etc.

Are we all agreed on that approach to a tie-breaker?

Sounds good to me! And thank you for efforts scoring the league,

Darren

Again. Just glad to be on the podium. But works for me.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2019, 03:47:15 PM »
Awe hell yea !!

AND

I won't be spotting y'all a race this year...

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2019, 07:00:03 PM »
Is there a league over to MotoGP.com this year?  I can't find it, and they race this weekend!
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2019, 10:40:21 AM »
Is there a league over to MotoGP.com this year?  I can't find it, and they race this weekend!

I cant find either.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2019, 02:28:33 PM »
MotoGP.com does this every year. They wait until the very last minute to activate the game. I don't understand why.

Actually, I think it's worse this year. It's so late, it's making me wonder if they're not going to do it.

The RevZilla league I participate in gave up and switched to MotoGoat.net

I'm not advocating that, just noting it's an alternative.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2019, 07:41:27 PM »
MotoGP.com does this every year. They wait until the very last minute to activate the game. I don't understand why.

Actually, I think it's worse this year. It's so late, it's making me wonder if they're not going to do it.

The RevZilla league I participate in gave up and switched to MotoGoat.net

I'm not advocating that, just noting it's an alternative.

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I was gonna say. Don't know why they do that.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2019, 07:43:27 PM »
I'll check out motogoat tomorrow morning Lance. Thanks for the lead.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2019, 09:24:20 PM »
Damn, we're less than 14 hours away from Q1 and still no game on the motogp website. I just registered at motogoat.net (that .net threw me off for bit) as HMFaceplant as a backup. I'll enter riders there as soon as I figure out how.

And it looks like you have to get motogoat.net picks in before Q1.  At least, that's where their timer seems to be set.

If the motogp.com game shows up, I'll throw picks in there too. Maybe we should all try to do both this time since we're pretty much out of time to discuss it now.    :eek:

I really haven't been paying attention. I'm gonna have a hard time figuring who to pick.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2019, 09:42:39 PM »
Here's short motogoat.net instructions for those who don't want to mess with the tldr web site:

Playing:
1. Registration is free. In the "name" box, put your team name.
2. You predict the top ten only.
3. The riders are listed on the home page. You pick by sliding the names up or down.
4. Pics are saved automatically as you make them. There is no save button.

Scoring:
Each rider you pick is going to be scored individually. You get points for how far close the rider finishes to your predicted position. If you pick them 7th and the finish 7th, you get 25 points. If they finish 1 place away (6th or 8th), you get 20 points. It keeps going that way using the MotoGP point system.

That's all, folks.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2019, 10:00:35 PM »
All right, picks made over to motogoat.net.  I'm 'melville' there just like here.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2019, 08:43:41 AM »
Here's short motogoat.net instructions for those who don't want to mess with the tldr web site:

Playing:
1. Registration is free. In the "name" box, put your team name.
2. You predict the top ten only.
3. The riders are listed on the home page. You pick by sliding the names up or down.
4. Pics are saved automatically as you make them. There is no save button.


One more addition.

5. You can make changes after the start of qualifying but before the race, but any riders you change after the start of qualifying, you only get half points for them.

So, for example, say Cal Crutchlow highsides in qualifying and breaks his leg. You can replace him with Pol Esparagaro, who you did not originally have in your top ten. But however many points Espargaro earns, you only get half of them. But that still might be better than the zero points you'd get from Crutchlow.

The main difference from the MotoGP game is we'll have to make picks routinely without the benefit of seeing who qualifies where.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2019, 09:37:06 AM »
I have created a group for us at Motogoat.net. It's called EOE Cup. You must have an access code to join the group. The access code is: 6569-4611-7804-1236. Let's get the party started!

Also, as creator of the group, I have elected to allow us to pick the top 15 riders instead of the top 10. This has no bearing on scoring outside of the group.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2019, 01:39:31 PM »
where to click on motogp web site?

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2019, 01:57:08 PM »
where to click on motogp web site?

It's not available on MotoGP. Not sure it will be. That's why we're migrating over to motogoat.net.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2019, 05:15:44 PM »
Damn.  DNF in the first race.   
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2019, 06:12:54 PM »
Damn.  DNF in the first race.

Registered for Motogoat.net and did my picks but then saw where you only get half points if predictions made after qualifying starts. Kind of take the shine off it now.  :(

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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2019, 06:27:47 PM »
Half is better than none.  I’ll get my picks in
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2019, 08:01:27 PM »
I’m in
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2019, 08:38:50 AM »
In the group, and I've expanded my picks to 15.  Thanks Kneescrubber!
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2019, 02:36:08 PM »
Excellent racing!
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Excellent racing this weekend and clearly the young guns are coming.

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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 10:38:11 PM »
And I finally joined the group...  At the top, of course. I had 220.

I didn't realize you could change it to make it 1 through 15. Luckily, I kind of did that anyway because I was making those picks when I figured out the main game only took 1-10.
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2019, 03:49:37 PM »
Current STO EOE Cup standings. Not looking good for last year's STO co-champions, yours truly included.

The good thing about Motogoat is that it keeps track of separate leagues, which makes the scorekeeping easy. Because it's already done. (My team name is bolded because I opened the standings under my account.)

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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2019, 06:21:10 PM »
The Airhead rider took no prisoners this weekend. Congratulations Melville. Be a good racer and share your secrets.  :clap:
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2019, 09:22:19 PM »
The Airhead rider took no prisoners this weekend. Congratulations Melville. Be a good racer and share your secrets.  :clap:

Wow.  I did not expect that result. 

I'm a VR46 fanboy and I always pick him to win.  Otherwise I pretty much follow the season standings.  Sometimes I even check the injury list.
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2019, 10:38:18 PM »
2 in the top 20 and 5 in the top 50 overall with 8 players.  :clap:
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2019, 06:56:34 PM »
As the admin of our group, I now have the ability to disable the penalty for changing your predictions after qualifying starts. Keep in mind, you would still be penalized in the overall Motogoat standings. I'd like input from everyone on your thoughts about that.
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2019, 04:55:14 PM »
As the admin of our group, I now have the ability to disable the penalty for changing your predictions after qualifying starts. Keep in mind, you would still be penalized in the overall Motogoat standings. I'd like input from everyone on your thoughts about that.

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I would rather be able to make picks after qualifying. On the other hand, for me personally, changing the rules now would be a big problem. I am participating in two groups but on the same account/team name. So changing the rules now would effectively eliminate me from one group or the other. If I made my picks after qualifying, I'd do better (we hope, at least) in this group but I'd suffer the half-of-my-points penalty in the other group. If I made picks before qualifying, I'd be at a disadvantage in this group to the others who made picks after qualifying.

If the rules had been changed before the season started, I could have set up two separate accounts. Not that it's anyone's fault. Well, I say it's MotoGP.com's fault for not doing their game and leaving us scrambling for an alternative at the last second with no time to plan.

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2019, 06:47:02 PM »
As the admin of our group, I now have the ability to disable the penalty for changing your predictions after qualifying starts. Keep in mind, you would still be penalized in the overall Motogoat standings. I'd like input from everyone on your thoughts about that.

I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I would rather be able to make picks after qualifying. On the other hand, for me personally, changing the rules now would be a big problem. I am participating in two groups but on the same account/team name. So changing the rules now would effectively eliminate me from one group or the other. If I made my picks after qualifying, I'd do better (we hope, at least) in this group but I'd suffer the half-of-my-points penalty in the other group. If I made picks before qualifying, I'd be at a disadvantage in this group to the others who made picks after qualifying.

If the rules had been changed before the season started, I could have set up two separate accounts. Not that it's anyone's fault. Well, I say it's MotoGP.com's fault for not doing their game and leaving us scrambling for an alternative at the last second with no time to plan.

You will get no argument from me on that Lance. It was offered to me as admin so I figured I'd put out for discussion between us.

I'd really like at least a  :thumbsup: or  :thumbsdown: from everyone else.  :twofinger: Will work fine too.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2019, 09:00:34 PM »

If the rules had been changed before the season started, I could have set up two separate accounts. Not that it's anyone's fault. Well, I say it's MotoGP.com's fault for not doing their game and leaving us scrambling for an alternative at the last second with no time to plan.

I'm with Lance. We shouldn't change rules now if someone gets hosed.

It's good to know, though. I'd like to see us pick after qualifying next year.


Quick question on the game:  If you forget to make picks some week, does it enter the default picks for you?
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2019, 09:41:00 PM »

If the rules had been changed before the season started, I could have set up two separate accounts. Not that it's anyone's fault. Well, I say it's MotoGP.com's fault for not doing their game and leaving us scrambling for an alternative at the last second with no time to plan.

I'm with Lance. We shouldn't change rules now if someone gets hosed.

It's good to know, though. I'd like to see us pick after qualifying next year.


Quick question on the game:  If you forget to make picks some week, does it enter the default picks for you?

It does.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2019, 09:45:32 PM »

Quick question on the game:  If you forget to make picks some week, does it enter the default picks for you?

It does.

I wonder if, over the course of the season, the default would kick my butt.   :lol:
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2019, 10:09:43 PM »
doesn't matter to me either way.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2019, 07:26:01 PM »

If the rules had been changed before the season started, I could have set up two separate accounts. Not that it's anyone's fault. Well, I say it's MotoGP.com's fault for not doing their game and leaving us scrambling for an alternative at the last second with no time to plan.

I'm with Lance. We shouldn't change rules now if someone gets hosed.

It's good to know, though. I'd like to see us pick after qualifying next year.


Quick question on the game:  If you forget to make picks some week, does it enter the default picks for you?

It does.

Not sure about that. I didn't make any picks last week and my score didn't change.

I doesn't matter to me now cause I'm out, but the picking pre qualifying didn't fit my schedule. I always made picks after warmup ever since getting hosed on a guy crashing in warmup and missing the race. At that point started doing the analysis Sunday morning and found it liberated my Saturdays from having to worry about it. But agree with the position that shouldn't change the rules now and like Lance said, could screw guys in multiple leagues.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2019, 05:02:56 PM »
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 I always made picks after warmup ever since getting hosed on a guy crashing in warmup and missing the race. At that point started doing the analysis Sunday morning and found it liberated my Saturdays from having to worry about it.

Just a quick tangent -- been burned on that too. I think it was Aleix?  Anyway, I realized if someone goes down in warmup, I'll always be screwed. The races typically start around 6:00 am here. No way am I waking up before that on Sunday to see if someone fell. I did like picking after qualy, though.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2019, 04:30:32 PM »
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2019, 04:46:20 PM »
W00t!  I spoze everyone had MM for the win?  I had Vale for the win and MM for 2nd, so maybe I wasn't hit quite so hard.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2019, 12:22:45 AM »
W00t!  I spoze everyone had MM for the win?  I had Vale for the win and MM for 2nd, so maybe I wasn't hit quite so hard.

I did. I picked Crutchlow to have a pretty good day too.

Motodog is 13th overall. Woot!
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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2019, 08:14:31 PM »
Motodog is 13th overall. Woot!

That raises an interesting point. Motodog is 13th overall, and that's based on the top 10 picks, but he's in fourth place in our little group, which is based on the top 15. That's a surprising difference. Obviously, he'd be in first place in our group if it were based on 10, not 15.

Meanwhile, after winning both the leagues in which I participated last year, I am a total backmarker this year. The guy leading the ZLA league I participate in is in sixth place overall at Motogoat. (But to be honest the only reason I beat him last year is because he fell asleep one night while watching timing for a warmup session in Europe and didn't get his picks in, thus suffering a DNS. The guy's good.)

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Re: 2019 MotoGP Fantasy League
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2019, 07:22:59 AM »
I did. I picked Crutchlow to have a pretty good day too. 
Me too. Should've known better, Cal always crashes out at COTA
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