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New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:09:58 PM »
There are 2 bikes on my short list and I can't decide; should I buy a Versys 1000 or Vstrom 1000?
I already know I'm getting next to nothing on trade-in and either bike will lose half it's value the first year.

The Versys has that awesome motor.  But I'd hesitate to ride it far off road, unless I find a bash plate for it.

The Vstrom has those windsail packing crates for bags.  Maybe I can mount my GIVI cases on it.

If I buy the Versys, I might keep my anemic Wee, and wear out the left toe on another set of boots.

If I buy the Vstrom, I'll miss the rush of that inline 4, but I'll replace 2 bikes with one.  (That's a plus)

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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2019, 04:28:17 PM »
If you want to do the adventure bike thing (dirt roads), then I'd lean towards the Vstrom 1000. It's probably a fine travel bike and can carve up twisties OK but you have the option of crash bars and a skid plate.
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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2019, 05:14:59 PM »
What percentage of offroading do you intend to do?
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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2019, 06:35:39 PM »
having had to sell my K1600 due to weight and health reasons, Id recommend the bigger HP, I miss the thrill!

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2019, 06:39:40 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2019, 07:09:01 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2019, 07:12:27 PM »
having had to sell my K1600 due to weight and health reasons, Id recommend the bigger HP, I miss the thrill!

Never understood why you sold the GS.  That was a good looking looking bike.  Nicely outfitted.  Probably for the same reason I bought the Connie.  HP and weather protection.  And did I mention HP.

What percentage of offroading do you intend to do?

Not a lot.  I just don't like having to stop when when the road turns to dirt. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2019, 07:19:28 PM »
having had to sell my K1600 due to weight and health reasons, Id recommend the bigger HP, I miss the thrill!

Never understood why you sold the GS.  That was a good looking looking bike.  Nicely outfitted.  Probably for the same reason I bought the Connie.  HP and weather protection.  And did I mention HP.

What percentage of offroading do you intend to do?

Not a lot.  I just don't like having to stop when when the road turns to dirt.

Have you not seen some of Miles' posts? Heck, I've had the VFR down plenty of dirt/gravel roads.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 08:10:36 PM »
Excuse me while I whip this out:

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 09:26:32 PM »
Oh, I like Miles' videos.   That's one I had not seen before. 

I could easily take the Versys (or my Connie, as long as I never have to pick it up) on roads like that.

Don't just hate it when you're about 14+ miles in and you get to a gate on what you thought was a through road?  Happened to me once near Camp David.  Found out later only reason I'm prolly still alive to tell you about it is I decided to turn back and not go around the gate.

I would not want the Versys on one of the roads on my last trip (on my Wee) out to Ohio.  Lots of loose stone, mud, chuck holes, slick-ass coal dust and football size rocks.  KLR would have been perfect for those 20 miles.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 09:35:34 PM »
Too bad they don't make something that will be equally comfortable both on and off road.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 10:39:51 PM »
Excuse me while I whip this out:

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2019, 05:41:33 AM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.












And when you tire of it I could buy it.  By the way I am really liking my V1k. I picked it up right before Christmas and have about 1300 miles on it so far. But I am a 99.9% road rider.

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 06:32:01 AM »
To be Frank, (snicker), why not the GS? Great power, off-pavement chops, super touring capabilities, etc. Or maybe a Tenere? I'm sure the Yamaha has won some sort of congeniality award somewhere, because it doesn't win any other awards. It's just a great, boring bike.
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2019, 07:29:42 AM »
Airhead!  All you really need.   
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2019, 08:33:01 AM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.












And when you tire of it I could buy it.  By the way I am really liking my V1k. I picked it up right before Christmas and have about 1300 miles on it so far. But I am a 99.9% road rider.

And I suppose the other 0.1% is the 100 yard loop you ride around the fairgrounds at Thanksgiving?   


To be Frank, (snicker), why not the GS? Great power, off-pavement chops, super touring capabilities, etc. Or maybe a Tenere? I'm sure the Yamaha has won some sort of congeniality award somewhere, because it doesn't win any other awards. It's just a great, boring bike.

VStrom over Tenere because I'd rather v-twin over parallel twin, and chain maintenance isn't the PIA it used to be.  And the new VStrom isn't anywhere nearly as fugly as my Wee.

Montgomeryville has an awesome tricked-out GS-R on the floor.  $27k.  It's not so much the price of the bike, it's the service and replacement part costs, and quite frankly, the attitude sometimes puts me off.  I spent about a half-hour looking at it.  Then I look at the VStrom and wonder if I'm throwing money away.

Then I look at the depreciation cost of a new bike and wonder...

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2019, 09:38:14 AM »
Well you can guess which I would pick lol.I liked the big strom ,but wanted a distance eater.For me the big Kawa V was the better choice,comfort wise and just the overall performance  of the whole package.About the only thing I MIGHT change is the windshield to the bigger one,but I am 50/50 as the stock isn't bad.The inline is smooth as silk.Decent mileage too. So Versys is my choice Skee.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2019, 10:06:52 AM »
You will buy the Versys because that is the model you listed first.

Can I try it sometime?  8)

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2019, 12:35:08 PM »
Even up if I can follow you on the VFR - for the first 20 minutes or so anyway until the tires warm up.

I also spent less than 30 seconds thinking about this - a future modern classic - if only I had a third bay on the garage.
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2019, 12:55:20 PM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.


Frank on a TW.... That would be funny to see.

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2019, 03:06:28 PM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.


Frank on a TW.... That would be funny to see.

Um... yeah. I have a feeling the bikes Frank listed have already been vetted for his height and comfort. Good luck with your choice!
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2019, 03:53:23 PM »
No matter what the choice, it's only a matter of time until something better comes on the market.

If only I had waited another year, I would have bought the first year Versys in that blazing orange color imstead of the Connie.

Thanks for the encouragement 8)
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2019, 05:00:18 PM »
Although I have not  had the new one on dirt or gravel yet , at some point I will,I did it all the time wth the little v and my speed triple more than a few times.Hell once long ago I rode a HD Electria glide all over Mexico ,80 % of the time on dirt or hard pack.NBD.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2019, 05:48:16 PM »
I'd offer an opinion, but I really haven't paid attention to new bikes for a couple decades.  Mine start at 10 years old and go back from there.
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2019, 06:15:11 PM »

What percentage of offroading do you intend to do?

Not a lot.  I just don't like having to stop when when the road turns to dirt.

Well the decision is simple to me, buy a Versys 1000 for the motor alone seeings how you're not going offload all that much. You can't go wrong with either of them but based on the motor the Law is the way to go.

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2019, 07:32:14 PM »
Excuse me while I whip this out:

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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2019, 07:49:39 PM »
Excuse me while I whip this out:

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2019, 08:44:41 PM »
Excuse me while I whip this out:

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Take it as it comes. Turning around is not an option.

I do turn around for locked gates, but that's about it.

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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2019, 05:15:41 AM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.












And when you tire of it I could buy it.  By the way I am really liking my V1k. I picked it up right before Christmas and have about 1300 miles on it so far. But I am a 99.9% road rider.

And I suppose the other 0.1% is the 100 yard loop you ride around the fairgrounds at Thanksgiving?   
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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2019, 05:16:37 AM »
What about a TW200. I have read it is great on the road and even better on the dirt. And it is easy to pickup.

And when you tire of it I could buy it.  By the way I am really liking my V1k. I picked it up right before Christmas and have about 1300 miles on it so far. But I am a 99.9% road rider.

And I suppose the other 0.1% is the 100 yard loop you ride around the fairgrounds at Thanksgiving?   
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 07:29:43 PM »
TW200 is definitely out.  Spent a long time thinking about this. 

The VStrom is certainly the more practical, ergonomical and economical choice.
But I can't help wondering if I'll soon find it anemic like it's smaller sibling.

I also found a skid plate for the Versys, which is admittedly not the better off-road choice.
The 15-20 hp over the Strom makes it more attractive for the 99% road-riding I do.

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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2019, 07:48:37 PM »
Here ya go buddy.
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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2019, 02:37:25 PM »
Both are good choices, and should be reliable and well-supported on the road.  My personal obsession or anxiety is range, but both seem to have sufficient range even for a ride through Nevada.

Ergonomics is also important, but that's really an individual decision.  Both of these bikes can probably be tweaked in that regard if they are close enough in the beginning.

If I were replacing my Little Red Ninja, I'd also consider:

Does the dealer have a good reputation?  I'm mechanically reclined, so that would be important to me. 

If you have good accessories, can they be transferred to either bike?

If both are comfortable and both are similar enough on paper, does one just feel better to you than the other?  Sometimes it's difficult to analyze what makes the best bike for you, but maybe a gut reaction has some validity.

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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2019, 05:54:05 PM »
It’s official.  I went with the Versys.  Pics will follow sometime.   

Truthfully, both bikes are pretty close.  vStrom advantage was ergos, reputation and handling.  Ugly side cases.

Kiwi has a seat that slopes forward.  Kinda like the Connie.  Super sweet motor.  Kinda like the Connie.

When I had the Wee, always thought I should have bought a Versys. 

Now that I have a Versys, I’ll prolly wish I had bought the Vstrom

I always over think everything.  I know I’m going to like it.

Maybe they’ll spawn a bastard child and next bike will be a KawaSuzi.   LOL
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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2019, 06:36:15 PM »
You won't be disappointed,I am surprised by the seat comment,I don't feel mine slopes at all.
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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2019, 06:47:30 PM »
Congratulations!
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2019, 07:27:48 PM »
You won't be disappointed,I am surprised by the seat comment,I don't feel mine slopes at all.

Maybe that's because I'm a long-legged hard arse.  It encourages you to sit up near the tank.  I like to push back.

I'm hoping to get some long weekend rides in this summer, if Mother Nature gives her blessing.
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2019, 08:38:11 PM »
I like to push back.

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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2019, 06:55:24 AM »
Welc9me to the club. I have about 1300 on mine so far and haven't noticed any sliding forward either.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2019, 02:43:27 PM »
Congrats, great bike from all I've seen and read....speedy continent crosser for sure--enjoy.

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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2019, 04:12:25 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2019, 05:39:48 PM »
TW200 is definitely out.  Spent a long time thinking about this. 

I didn't think you spend that much time considering a TW.  :blbl:

Congratulations on the new ride. Looks like you just lost 150 lbs.  :willy:  What color are you getting?

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2019, 05:57:14 PM »
 :needpics:

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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2019, 06:56:57 PM »
Said goodbye to the Connie and about 250 unwanted pounds

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I love the paint on this thing.

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I going to love riding it even more.  Definitely was the right choice.  Got the lightweight handling of my Wee with almost the same sound and thrust as the Connie.  Maybe rode it all of 30 miles around the neighborhood.  Was enjoying it so much I was just riding it around the block on a set of local esses.

Major plus: Stopped at the local wine shop and the side case is perfectly sized to carry one or 2 bottles.

Major miss: No TPS.  O well, I can add them on my Garmin

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Next up - new summer-weight gloves - these 14 years olds were done 3 years ago

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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2019, 07:14:57 PM »
Congrats Frank!  I like that black/white color scheme
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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2019, 07:17:03 PM »
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Well done!!
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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2019, 07:52:16 AM »
Congrats Frank!  Wishing you many happy miles together

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Re: New bike decision time - congenial advice graciously accepted
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2019, 08:05:37 AM »
Great choice Frank, best of luck with her.  :thumbsup:

Hopefully I'll get to share a few miles with youz this summer...
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