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2019 MotoGP thread
« on: November 19, 2018, 09:34:48 AM »
with the new season starting tomorrow what are your thoughts?
can JLo hang with MM on the Honda?
are Yamaha's problems behind then, and can a 40 year old compete?
Will Suzuki have more in store?
Can Zarco make the KTM competitive?
What about Dovi and the Ducati team?


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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 04:51:16 PM »
I suspect JLo will struggle for the first season, much like his time at Ducati. I'm more interested in the team dynamics.
I'm sure Rossi is still competitive, but we'll have to see how the bike does.
I expect Suzuki will continue to improve and do well.
I think Zarco is going to struggle on the KTM, at least moreso than the year-old Yamaha.
Ducati will continue to be strong.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 04:57:00 PM »
How about young Can Oncu, flash in the pan or next big thing. 

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 06:02:55 PM »
JLs style doesn't seem to fit the Honda even more than it did with the Duc. He never got along with his teammates at Yamaha, or Duc, so I agree with Garry that it will be interesting to see how he gets along with MM. "recommend switch to map 8" and "-1".  ;D

Not a VR fan but he seems to still have the drive and physical ability, so barring an injury or Yamaha throwing a clunker engine in 2019, I think he will be competitive. The last two races he had good race pace.

MM said Suzuki will be seriously challenging for podiums next year, I believe him and think Rins has the skills.

Zarco is a very talented wild man. How many KTMs will he throw down the road after burning up the tires early before he can be disciplined enough to be a regular on the podium? How much will DP help in bike development? Smarter guys than me will have to chime in but gonna be fun to watch either way.

Wil CS departure (to Honda?) hurt Ducati? DP9 will be a question mark but AD will be solid as usual, I suspect.

Can't wait for the testing to begin.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 10:58:32 AM »
with the new season starting tomorrow what are your thoughts?
can JLo hang with MM on the Honda?
are Yamaha's problems behind then, and can a 40 year old compete?
Will Suzuki have more in store?
Can Zarco make the KTM competitive?
What about Dovi and the Ducati team?

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 12:01:44 PM »
I gave in and bought the videopass.  I think it is worth after using it for the last half of the season.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 06:52:46 PM »
Is the JLo nickname official?  Regardless, I'm going with it for "George"
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 09:19:25 PM »
Haha I’m not sure it’s just less typing so I went with it?

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2018, 05:10:57 AM »
When I saw the auto-renewal change for the MotoGP Video pass hit my car yesterday, I knew I was in for an evening of watching testing at Valencia.   :popcorn:

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2018, 11:47:15 AM »
How much easier is the Yamaha to ride compared to the Honda ?

At least five positions forward based on Morbidelli's times...

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 12:31:56 PM »
apparently.... I was surprised that Zarco didn't do better? Next week will be interesting.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 10:32:26 AM »
How much easier is the Yamaha to ride compared to the Honda ?

That depends on who's riding it and which way Yamaha develops the M1. Vinales favors a bike setup that is almost the complete opposite of Rossi's.

The new Sepang satellite Yamahas will be the new Tech 3 squad with probably similar results.

The Yamaha will still be down on power compared to the Hondas and Ducs but will handle better than both and brake better than the Honda.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2018, 05:57:16 PM »
Marquez interview on day 2 of testing. He said he wasn't able to push to the maximum because he was "forbidden to crash".   ;D

I just thought that was funny.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2018, 06:41:07 PM »
The MotoE and new Triumph-powered Moto2 bikes were testing today. Kinda interested in how both classes sort themselves out with the new hardware.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2018, 05:16:43 PM »
I was stunned when I read some of the names, Sete Gibernau and Randy De Puniet.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2018, 12:48:07 AM »
Bummer news from WSBK. Ten Kate declared bankruptcy. Honda switched teams, and told Ten Kate too late for them to put together a deal with someone else. They sounded pretty bitter.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/world-superbike-ten-kate-racing-declares-bankruptcy-starts-legal-proceedings-against-honda/
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2018, 03:25:11 PM »
That's it for 2018. Lorenzo appears to be getting along with the Honda, Ducati appears to have even more riders near the front than before, Yamaha???  and Zarco appears to be struggling with the KTM.

It's a long time til March.......

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2018, 12:43:36 PM »
Zarco appears to be struggling with the KTM.


You can have your very own KTM RC16 to struggle with for a small fortune:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/ktm-offering-two-rc16-motogp-racebikes-for-sale-to-the-public/

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2018, 01:27:47 PM »
Cool.  For the wealthy collector and track aficionado, that would be a neat acquisition that comes with a few neat perks.   
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2018, 03:17:57 PM »
Zarco appears to be struggling with the KTM.


You can have your very own KTM RC16 to struggle with for a small fortune:

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/ktm-offering-two-rc16-motogp-racebikes-for-sale-to-the-public/


If you did pull it out for a few track days, could you find basic consumable parts? I mean, if you just paid north of $250K for a bike you have money to spend, but can you actually get the parts?
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2018, 03:27:19 PM »
any of you guys loan me some KTM cash??

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2018, 03:59:38 PM »
If you did pull it out for a few track days, could you find basic consumable parts? I mean, if you just paid north of $250K for a bike you have money to spend, but can you actually get the parts?

Most mortals can't utilize a modern day liter bike to it's full potential, much less something like a GP bike. Not many could ride it at the level it needs to be ridden at to make it work properly I would think. Museum queen...

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2018, 06:23:22 PM »
I would be scared to death to ride it, but it would be kind of a fun scared. And probably go slower than how slow I go on my bikes.

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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2018, 08:27:19 PM »
I would be scared to death to ride it, but it would be kind of a fun scared. And probably go slower than how slow I go on my bikes.

Remember the Desmosedici? $75K a pop? A local guy bought not one, not two, but THREE of them. He used to take one to track days and let friends ride it. So there are people out there that will ride things like that. Sadly, the dude passed away. I haven't heard what, if anything, happened to his extensive collection of motorcycles and famous race bikes. Pretty chill dude. You'd never know he was worth a bunch of money. RIP.
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Re: 2019 MotoGP thread
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 07:40:05 AM »
I would be scared to death to ride it, but it would be kind of a fun scared. And probably go slower than how slow I go on my bikes.

Id dunno about, wih today's modern engine, brake, traction and wheelie controls some settings could be found to make anyone comfortable.

The old 500 2 strokes? Not so much.
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