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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1750 on: December 27, 2020, 08:24:19 AM »
Today I learned that some people think adding "stipulations" to a tire thread will make any difference at all.

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1751 on: December 27, 2020, 02:24:39 PM »
He's an old man. Cut him some slack.

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1752 on: December 27, 2020, 03:15:31 PM »
Flyer and Clay, I am glad I can help out.

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1753 on: December 27, 2020, 03:23:59 PM »
The 100 folds in a chef’s toque are said to represent 100 ways to cook an egg.

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« Reply #1754 on: December 27, 2020, 03:25:45 PM »
Reduviidae, AKA Assassin Bugs
Thousands of species of the aptly named assassin bug crawl the Earth. Most prey on other insects, using a segmented beak to suck out victims' body fluids, and some species even kill bedbugs and roaches. Still, not all are beneficial. There are species that drink blood and prey on vertebrates, and one is even known to bite the eyes of sleeping humans. Another defends itself by spitting toxic saliva that causes blindness. Some produce pain-inducing venom, and others carry what often-fatal disease? More... Discuss

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1755 on: December 27, 2020, 09:00:32 PM »
Today I learned that some people think adding "stipulations" to a tire thread will make any difference at all.

https://www.sport-touring.org/index.php?topic=6889.msg207920;topicseen#new

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1756 on: December 28, 2020, 08:55:32 PM »
Reduviidae, AKA Assassin Bugs
Thousands of species of the aptly named assassin bug crawl the Earth. Most prey on other insects, using a segmented beak to suck out victims' body fluids, and some species even kill bedbugs and roaches. Still, not all are beneficial. There are species that drink blood and prey on vertebrates, and one is even known to bite the eyes of sleeping humans. Another defends itself by spitting toxic saliva that causes blindness. Some produce pain-inducing venom, and others carry what often-fatal disease? More... Discuss


A subspecies is the carrier for Chagas Disease, which is a real scourge in large parts of South America, and can be found in parts of the US as well:

https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/gen_info/detailed.html#intro
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Re: What did you learn today?
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1758 on: December 30, 2020, 06:31:58 AM »
Today is National Bacon Day.

https://nationaltoday.com/national-bacon-day/

That's certainly something to celebrate!
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« Reply #1759 on: December 30, 2020, 06:53:53 AM »
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« Reply #1760 on: December 30, 2020, 09:48:27 AM »
I learned that I got a 24 hour FB suspension for talking about how the guards who claimed they were just doing their jobs found out otherwise at Nuremberg. They say it was because it was promoting dangerous individuals or groups. Since the content was about punishment of those people, it must be because their Faux Checkers are scared that a modern Nuremberg will rule likewise against them.

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1761 on: December 30, 2020, 09:54:07 AM »
I learned that I got a 24 hour FB suspension for talking about how the guards who claimed they were just doing their jobs found out otherwise at Nuremberg. They say it was because it was promoting dangerous individuals or groups. Since the content was about punishment of those people, it must be because their Faux Checkers are scared that a modern Nuremberg will rule likewise against them.

Took longer than I care to admit to realize that this wasn't about a racetrack.  :(
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1762 on: December 30, 2020, 11:08:06 AM »
Wireless charging for elec. vehicles is coming
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1763 on: December 31, 2020, 10:16:32 AM »
I relearned that FB Faux Checkers can't read and will suspend an account about NOT being like Nazis simply because of the photo and not the content.


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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1764 on: December 31, 2020, 08:38:19 PM »
For some, 'drinking problem' is an oxymoron.

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« Reply #1765 on: December 31, 2020, 08:44:38 PM »
I used to have a drinking problem but with much practice I became really good at it.
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1766 on: January 01, 2021, 09:35:12 AM »
My Brother-Cousin stopped by for a NYE visit yesterday evening.

Ron was a good friend before I met my future wife. They were cousins.

An evening of catching up, music, guitar picking, and BBQ.

What'd I learn? My ones threes and fives.

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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1767 on: January 01, 2021, 01:00:38 PM »
Threes?
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1768 on: January 02, 2021, 08:16:12 AM »
Threes?

We were playing and Ron said, "Key of G... now 1, 3, 5". I looked blankly at him and he explained.

If they key is G, that would be 1. Now... if G is 1 what is 2? (A). 3? (B). 5? (E).

Simple really and in common use but my instructor was all about learning to read sheet music so he wanted to avoid teaching that until later.

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« Reply #1769 on: January 02, 2021, 08:27:05 AM »
Threes?

We were playing and Ron said, "Key of G... now 1, 3, 5". I looked blankly at him and he explained.

If they key is G, that would be 1. Now... if G is 1 what is 2? (A). 3? (B). 5? (E).

Simple really and in common use but my instructor was all about learning to read sheet music so he wanted to avoid teaching that until later.

That's known as the Nashville Number System. It's a nice shorthand way to describe the structure of a song. All you need is the key and everything else is relative to it. It's the way I think about the notes in scales/chords. I don't memorize note names all over the fingerboard. I memorize patterns and what the notes in the pattern are relative to the root. You do need to know all the notes on the low E and A strings as that is typically where the roots are for barre chords.
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« Reply #1770 on: January 02, 2021, 02:07:43 PM »
Threes?

We were playing and Ron said, "Key of G... now 1, 3, 5". I looked blankly at him and he explained.

If they key is G, that would be 1. Now... if G is 1 what is 2? (A). 3? (B). 5? (E).

Simple really and in common use but my instructor was all about learning to read sheet music so he wanted to avoid teaching that until later.

Appropriate that this is a learning thread. Never heard it referred to that way. Blues as 1,4,5 I use all the time.  But as an oaf that doesn't read music, I'm pretty lacking in the fundamentals. I thought 5 would have been D.
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1771 on: January 03, 2021, 11:00:55 AM »
Today is a Sunday.
Never would have guessed it...
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1772 on: January 05, 2021, 06:49:15 PM »
Tonya Roberts - Midge Pinciotti on 'That 70's Show', was a Bond girl. "A View to a Kill,"  1985.
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« Reply #1773 on: January 06, 2021, 04:00:28 AM »
Tonya Roberts - Midge Pinciotti on 'That 70's Show', was a Bond girl. "A View to a Kill,"  1985.

Passed away.

She was also on Charlie's Angles and she played Sheena.

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« Reply #1774 on: January 06, 2021, 08:19:49 AM »
Tonya Roberts - Midge Pinciotti on 'That 70's Show', was a Bond girl. "A View to a Kill,"  1985.

If you were a bond fan, you knew that the moment she appeared on screen.  ;)  How about Famke Janssen, Michelle Yeoh, Terri Hatcher, and Denise Richards (as a nuclear scientist... really)?

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« Reply #1775 on: January 06, 2021, 09:11:17 AM »
Technically yesterday, but I learned that I'm Covid Negative.  My (and the wifes) massage therapist notified us over the weekend that she was sick and had tested positive. The wife and I both had seen her the prior week, so were solidly in the 'exposed' time period. Although asymptomatic, the wife and I thought it responsible to test.

I'll tell you what though, I'll have the sensation of having my brain tickled stamped in my psyche forever.

Having taken a couple days extra off over New Years, we had time to schedule for testing and I only missed one extra day of work. Oh darn... hate having an extra day for oil changes and dismantling of Xmas lights. Darn, I say again, Darn.

I'm writing this one off to the efficacy of masks. In my daily work, I can't tell you how many in a building of 60 people are solidly refusing to wear masks at work (Easily 80%). I wear mine, my people wear theirs, my massage lady wears hers, I wear mine for all interactions. Dunno where she picked it up, but it wasn't passed along to us because of those annoying little pieces of fabric. Wish I could make some of the fools I work with see this as a teaching moment, but sadly, they won't listen.

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« Reply #1776 on: January 07, 2021, 04:11:07 AM »
Hey LT, can you send them home without pay for not wearing a mask?  That should get their attention.

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« Reply #1777 on: January 07, 2021, 04:11:37 AM »
I may have posted this before.

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« Reply #1778 on: January 07, 2021, 07:51:29 AM »
Hey LT, can you send them home without pay for not wearing a mask?  That should get their attention.

I wish the owner of the company was behind that. Unfortunately, he's also the guy running around without mask, sanitizing spray bottle in hand and nothing else. OK, to be faaaaaiiiiiiirrr, he has put in all non-contact water and soap access plant wide, and offered sanitizer as well, but in a big confined building, he's banking on 6ft distancing.  *MY* personal employees have been provided with kick-ass masks, but the only time I can actually order usage is when on deliveries at customers sites. That said, my people use them in plant as well, and my recent experience seems to have made even more of an impression on them that the barrier helps.

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« Reply #1779 on: January 07, 2021, 09:22:06 AM »
I learned that the lids for Parmesan cheese containers also fit on Mason jars.
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« Reply #1781 on: January 17, 2021, 12:31:20 PM »
I learned our little town will be having bike nights every Friday evening throughout the summer  :chili:. They do car cruises on Monday nights. Which are nice to just get out and walk around town. They block off main street downtown and it is just foot traffic.  Will probably be more of a HD crowd, but that is fine. I still like to look at them to.

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« Reply #1782 on: January 17, 2021, 03:25:48 PM »
M-DISC (Millennial Disc) is a write-once optical disc technology     
introduced in 2009
available as DVD and Blu-ray discs
data  stored on M-DISC recordings will (are suppose to) last 1,000 years!
You need compatible writer, but they are readable by most (regular) disc drives
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« Reply #1783 on: January 17, 2021, 08:50:07 PM »

data  stored on M-DISC recordings will (are suppose to) last 1,000 years!


So long as you have the proper tech to read it.  I worked with the State Archivist, and migrating computer data or maintaining "historic" technology was an ongoing issue.

Case in point, some Vietnam Vets were suing the DoD for Agent Orange exposure.  The computer records of flights applying Agent Orange were still in existence, but were stored on old punch cards.  The machine to read them had been destroyed as part of decommissioning outdated tech, and the courts ruled that the DoD didn't have the duty to reconstruct the machine.  So if the ill Vets wanted to read the punch cards, they bore the financial cost of reconstructing the machine.  It would have been appx. $1 million, with no assurance of winning the case.  The case was dropped.

Oddly, an old tech like microfiche is a good choice as all you need to read it is a light and a magnifying glass.   Otherwise, a book on acid-free paper can last a long time.  I remember that 80 year old books on linen based paper were still good while 20 year old books from wood pulp paper were falling apart at my college library.
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« Reply #1784 on: January 18, 2021, 08:12:38 AM »
Jan 17th is the birthday for Ben Franklin and Betty White.



I wonder if they dated?

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« Reply #1785 on: January 18, 2021, 08:20:24 AM »
Jan 17th is the birthday for Ben Franklin and Betty White.

I wonder if they dated?

Pshaw. I'm betting Betty made Ben a man. MEMORABLY. 

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« Reply #1786 on: January 18, 2021, 10:01:03 AM »
Out.   :rolf:
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« Reply #1787 on: January 19, 2021, 02:27:56 AM »
working 6p to 6a is pretty freakin boring.
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« Reply #1788 on: January 19, 2021, 06:55:42 PM »
working 6p to 6a is pretty freakin boring.
Some people get paid to be bored!
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« Reply #1789 on: January 19, 2021, 08:49:21 PM »
working 6p to 6a is pretty freakin boring.
Some people get paid to be bored!
Luxury!!
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Concur.  I can be bored and not get paid anytime. 
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« Reply #1790 on: January 20, 2021, 07:08:30 AM »
From David Cenciotti, The Aviationist:

On Jan. 10, 1964, Boeing civilian test pilot Chuck Fisher and his three man crew launched from Wichita, Kansas, for a mission aboard B-52H serial number 61-0023. The aircraft was involved in a test mission whose purpose was to examine the effects of turbulence at varying altitudes and airspeeds. In other words the aircrew would shake, rattle and roll the Stratofortress bomber at high speed and low altitude to record sensor data on how such conditions could affect the plane’s airframe.

This kind of testing was done because new tactics required the B-52 to fly a different flight profile than the one it was originally designed for. In fact, the Stratofortress bomber was designed to fly at high altitude and hi speed (near supersonic). However, as the Russian air defenses advanced in their ability to hit high flying targets, so the best method to defeat the emerging Soviet threat was considered to be a high-speed low level penetration, whose stress on the airframe required additional testing.

For the test, the Air Force loaned 61-0023 to Boeing that installed 20 accelerometers and 200 sensors to record the stresses on the airframe. The first part of the test went as expected: the crew flew some of the test patterns to measure the effects of turbulence on the jet, then aborted one portion of the flight due to turbulence becoming too strong for what was needed for the tests.

At that point the crew took a short lunch break, heading to smoother air.

As the B-52 was climbing to 14,300 feet it hit CAT (clear-air turbulence) over northern New Mexico’s Sangre de Christo Mountains.

The crew would later describe it as a giant force that picked up the plane and hit it.

“When this event occurred it was so violent that I was literally picked up and thrown against the left side of the airplane and over the nav table” said James Pittman, navigator. I had the rudder to the firewall, the control column in my  lap, and full wheel input and I wasn’t having any luck righting the airplane,” said Charles Fisher, instructor pilot. “In the short period after the turbulence I gave the order to prepare to abandon the airplane because I didn’t think we were going to keep it together.”

Immediately after the severe turbulence, the jet rolled hard right and almost went out of control and it required about 80 percent left wheel throw to control the aircraft by the time things had settled down.

Although the vertical fin and the rudder had been sheared off by a gust of turbulence, the aircrew didn’t know the full extent of the damage until later.

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Based on the sensor readings, the gust hit the B-52 at 81 mph (130 kmh)! This left the plane with only a small stub of metal protruding from the fuselage to serve as the vertical tail. The first assessment was carried out by the aircrew of another B-52 that was vectored to intercept 61-0023.

Later an F-100 would scramble to chase the injured B-52 to Blytheville Air Force Base, Arkansas, an airfield chosen because it was in a less densely populated area and located so that the aircraft would not need to cross the Rocky Mountains which would have subjected the BUFF to additional turbulent conditions.

For the next six hours Boeing Engineers and Air Force pilots on the radio would work together to find out the possible ways for safe landing the aircraft.

According to the U.S. Air Force records, “the crew along with Boeing engineers decided that a combination of altering the center gravity by moving fuel on board, changing the engine settings, and small amounts of airbrakes could give the crew the fighting chance it needed. The plan worked, and gave the pilot a small additional measure of control as the jet crept along at a little more than 200 knots.”

The crew was instructed to land at Blytheville AFB. The pilot would fly a final “flaps-up” landing.

“Arriving at Blytheville we lowered the rest of the gear,” said Fisher. “The front main gear made flying kind of tricky when it came down it made the airplane yaw but once it finally was down we were in good shape.”

The worn-out crew landed the jet safely. Saving the plane also saved the data recorded on it with information the that would help engineers understand why the tail failed and also teach future crews about the limits of the B-52.

Still, three days later, another B-52, a D model, tail number 55-0060, flying as “BUZZ 14” was lost after the vertical stabilizer broke off in winter storm turbulence. The incident, also known as the Savage Mountain B-52 crash, is particularly famous because the aircraft was carrying two live, 9 mega-ton B53 thermonuclear bombs.

The pilot, Maj. Tom McCormick, co-pilot, Capt. Parker Peedin, navigator, Major Robert Lee Payne and tail gunner Tech Sgt. Melvin E. Wooten all managed to actuate their ejection seats and egress the aircraft into the black, freezing sky. Major Robert Townley may have been pinned inside the B-52 by G-forces as the crash accelerated out of control and he struggled with his parachute harness, his ejection seat may have malfunctioned or he may have been knocked unconscious in the bone-breaking turbulence. He never got out. His body was discovered more than 24 hours later. The two bombs were found “relatively intact in the middle of the wreckage” and removed two days later.

Back to 61-0023 and its tailless landing, despite the damage, the aircraft returned to active service and flew with the U.S. Air Force until 2008, when it was retired at the 309th AMARG (Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group) at Davis-Monthan AFB, Arizona, where it can be found on the so-called Celebrity Row, stored with the PCN/Inventory No. AABC0481. The airframe 61-0023 was the first B-52 to be retired at the “Boneyard” (a place, from where, Stratofortress can also be resurrected, as demonstrated by “Ghost Rider” and “Wise Guy“!).
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Re: What did you learn today?
« Reply #1791 on: January 23, 2021, 06:07:42 AM »
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« Reply #1792 on: January 23, 2021, 05:04:41 PM »
Helen Keller; After an education at both specialist and mainstream schools, she attended Radcliffe College of Harvard University and became the first deafblind person to earn a Bachelor of Arts degree.

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Please for all that is holy don't confuse a free Budweiser with beer.
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