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The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:54:31 PM »
Looks pretty cool but I wonder if it's a warmed over Dodge Caravan.

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 09:09:42 PM »
https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-vw-t6-california-van-is-the-best-car-thats-als-1825906694

Not a Dodge.  But not for sale here, either.

My kids have only recently not had a VW Bus to roll around in.  When VW announced the Routan (that one IS a Dodge Caravan) my kids asked about it and I said the Routan was all four horseman of the VW Apocalypse.  Imagine, VW outsourcing minivans!
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 09:12:13 PM »
https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-vw-t6-california-van-is-the-best-car-thats-als-1825906694

Not a Dodge.  But not for sale here, either.

My kids have only recently not had a VW Bus to roll around in.  When VW announced the Routan (that one IS a Dodge Caravan) my kids asked about it and I said the Routan was all four horseman of the VW Apocalypse.  Imagine, VW outsourcing minivans!

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 09:23:17 PM »
Defiantly not a Caravan, as mentioned not available here in the States.  Wonder why not marketed in the old USA? 

VW has outsourced to a Caravan, yes they must be nuts. We have a fleet of the Dodge Caravans at work, and they are some of the most prone to fail vehicles we have ever had. Heck the first vintage of the ford 6.0 diesel E350 were more reliable, and that one was a breakdown just waiting to happen.
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 09:44:50 PM »
I just checked on the VW Mexico web page, and they don't yet mention it there.  Might be too early to discuss 2019 for the marketing crew.

I do see the VW Transporter, which is probably the same T6 chassis, just "business-class".

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 10:06:47 PM »
From what I read it sells for like 60 to 70k. Cha-ching! Fuck-n-groov'n or farfegnugen or whatever it is.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 12:04:16 AM »
From what I read it sells for like 60 to 70k. Cha-ching! Fuck-n-groov'n or farfegnugen or whatever it is.

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 12:22:06 AM »
Since it's not available here we won't have to fix the timing belt ...
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2018, 06:10:18 AM »
I so very much wish VW sold this vehicle here in the States.  This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.  That said, this would replace the 4Runner and I already struggle getting kayaks on/off the Toyota.  Kayaks wouldn't work on this VW rig.  I suppose I'd need to trade one of the cars for a hot wagon for kayaking :) (if only any of the hot wagons sold in Europe were sold here)
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2018, 06:10:25 AM »
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 07:32:40 AM »
I so very much wish VW sold this vehicle here in the States.  This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.  That said, this would replace the 4Runner and I already struggle getting kayaks on/off the Toyota.  Kayaks wouldn't work on this VW rig.  I suppose I'd need to trade one of the cars for a hot wagon for kayaking :) (if only any of the hot wagons sold in Europe were sold here)

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2018, 08:52:48 AM »
I so very much wish VW sold this vehicle here in the States.  This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.  That said, this would replace the 4Runner and I already struggle getting kayaks on/off the Toyota.  Kayaks wouldn't work on this VW rig.  I suppose I'd need to trade one of the cars for a hot wagon for kayaking :) (if only any of the hot wagons sold in Europe were sold here)

BMW 335 wagon...? 300lbs of turbo torque, still way lighter up front and all around than the v8 models. Liz is LOVING her 535 sedan.

Good news, Audi plans to bring the RS6 Wagon and BMW the new M5 Estate here to the states.  Those are above my pay grade, but it's a good sign.  Mercedes can't keep E Wagons and AMG Wagons on the lot (no kidding).

My ideal would be if BMW releases a 340i wagon on their new 3 series platform in the next two years.  Yummy!
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2018, 10:45:17 AM »
I so very much wish VW sold this vehicle here in the States.  This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.  That said, this would replace the 4Runner and I already struggle getting kayaks on/off the Toyota.  Kayaks wouldn't work on this VW rig.  I suppose I'd need to trade one of the cars for a hot wagon for kayaking :) (if only any of the hot wagons sold in Europe were sold here)
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 11:26:42 AM »

 :wave:


I adore what we affectionately call "the beast."  I daily commute w/ it, haul kayaks, do some off-roading, and do Costco/Lowes runs.  Sheri uses it for dog shows.  While the camper van is very cool, it won't be sold here so the 4Runner (beast) stays.  :)
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 12:14:49 PM »
A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR compact camper van is something of interest to you people? Jesus Cluny Frog, even the yahoos at Jalopnik are equating this to a combination vehicle and a HOUSE. Newsflash, those guys that live down by the river in their van are considered HIGH-END HOMELESS where I'm from... that isn't a desirable thing, particularly come winter.

This baffles me. Totally. I understand having a van for a camper, but even aftermarket conversions are over and beyond. This... this is just madness. I'm not surprised that it isn't being sold here. I'm shocked that they can sell it anywhere.

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2018, 12:27:56 PM »
A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR compact camper van is something of interest to you people? Jesus Cluny Frog, even the yahoos at Jalopnik are equating this to a combination vehicle and a HOUSE. Newsflash, those guys that live down by the river in their van are considered HIGH-END HOMELESS where I'm from... that isn't a desirable thing, particularly come winter.

This baffles me. Totally. I understand having a van for a camper, but even aftermarket conversions are over and beyond. This... this is just madness. I'm not surprised that it isn't being sold here. I'm shocked that they can sell it anywhere.

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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2018, 12:44:12 PM »
Quote: “Remember when pickups, vans, Jeeps, and VWs were affordable? (sigh)”

If you aren’t “trendy” you can still find some great deals as more and
more people move to the more popular models.
I recently picked up a low mileage, great condition high-end sedan that
originally sold for about 45K for the cost of one paycheck. Yes, one.
Highly desirable vehicles, like pickups, are well beyond my cost-vs-need
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2018, 01:44:01 PM »
I guess there's an audience but for that kind of money, I could recreate my set up with a brand new truck and a brand new trailer and be WAY more comfortable.  Granted, I'm not taking my set up to a lot of places one of these could go and that is probably the motivation for a lot of the buyers but I don't need to go that far off grid anymore.  If I do, I'll take my truck and my tent.  Frankly, if it doesn't have a crapper, it might as well be a tent.

That being said, if you look at some of the nicer class B rigs, the prices will make you choke.  There's a reason I'm in a little travel trailer.  But I guess not everyone wants to pull a trailer or drive a truck or be fifty some feet long. 
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2018, 03:33:49 PM »
At least the Guzzi California was made for the U.S. market. The VW California must be for Baja California.
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 06:57:25 PM »
A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR compact camper van is something of interest to you people? Jesus Cluny Frog, even the yahoos at Jalopnik are equating this to a combination vehicle and a HOUSE. Newsflash, those guys that live down by the river in their van are considered HIGH-END HOMELESS where I'm from... that isn't a desirable thing, particularly come winter.

This baffles me. Totally. I understand having a van for a camper, but even aftermarket conversions are over and beyond. This... this is just madness. I'm not surprised that it isn't being sold here. I'm shocked that they can sell it anywhere.

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First of all, I had no idea of the price.  I'm out.  I'd never pay that for a VW and if I were looking to spend that much for Sheri's dog shows, I'd get this...



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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2018, 08:07:56 PM »
Quote: “Remember when pickups, vans, Jeeps, and VWs were affordable? (sigh)”

If you aren’t “trendy” you can still find some great deals as more and
more people move to the more popular models.
I recently picked up a low mileage, great condition high-end sedan that
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Highly desirable vehicles, like pickups, are well beyond my cost-vs-need
rational.

That's exactly how Liz got her BMW 535xi. 10 years old with like 70k on the clock, excellent condition, all wheel drive. The price was four digits. I think it was somewhere around $55k new. 10 years, scant more than 1/10th the price.
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2018, 08:25:33 PM »

 :wave:


I adore what we affectionately call "the beast."  I daily commute w/ it, haul kayaks, do some off-roading, and do Costco/Lowes runs.  Sheri uses it for dog shows.  While the camper van is very cool, it won't be sold here so the 4Runner (beast) stays.  :)
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Re: The Awesome New VW Camper "California"
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2018, 08:42:57 AM »
A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR compact camper van is something of interest to you people? Jesus Cluny Frog, even the yahoos at Jalopnik are equating this to a combination vehicle and a HOUSE. Newsflash, those guys that live down by the river in their van are considered HIGH-END HOMELESS where I'm from... that isn't a desirable thing, particularly come winter.

Newsflash. Rental and home prices are through the roof. Its bordering on personal financial irresponsibility to even consider making rental/mortgage payments in most markets. It makes no financial sense, in reality, to spend 35%+ of your income on a roof (and most are significantly higher). I'd seriously consider living in a 'van down by the river' to save over $20K/yr, if I were single with no dependents. In fact, I love the idea.

Granted, its very different situation for somebody in dire need and has no choice.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2018, 08:59:46 AM »
A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR compact camper van is something of interest to you people? Jesus Cluny Frog, even the yahoos at Jalopnik are equating this to a combination vehicle and a HOUSE. Newsflash, those guys that live down by the river in their van are considered HIGH-END HOMELESS where I'm from... that isn't a desirable thing, particularly come winter.

Newsflash. Rental and home prices are through the roof. Its bordering on personal financial irresponsibility to even consider making rental/mortgage payments in most markets. It makes no financial sense, in reality, to spend 35%+ of your income on a roof (and most are significantly higher). I'd seriously consider living in a 'van down by the river' to save over $20K/yr, if I were single with no dependents. In fact, I love the idea.

Granted, its very different situation for somebody in dire need and has no choice.

I live in an RV. A small 24 foot Class C. By choice. I spend the winter months in S Texas. I spend the spring in AL, TN, NC, VA. Summers are back in Columbus to spend time with my kids, and then I slowly plot a course back to S. TX for the winter. This year, I think I'll head west to the mountains before scampering south in front of the cold.

I had already started adopting a more minimalist lifestyle when I started this (in fact, I did start out in a van...) I've also spent many a month "down by the river", but it was always at a National Forest, or Corps of Engineers campground, or a pretty decent RV Park.

We call our ourselves "fulltimers".  I've met people from every walk of life that do it. Some in million dollar class A motorhomes, and some in fairly shitty vans or just out of whatever their daily driver vehicle happens to be.

The RV is financed for 15 years. My payment is under $500. In the south, I usually pay around $300 a month for a decent RV Park, plus electric - which has never run me more than $80. In the north, you're looking at more like $500 or $600 a month for a decent RV park, but my electric is usually under $40.

So, for less than $1,000 a month, on average, I'm living in a brand new RV, staying in beautiful locations and enjoying nature and I never have to shovel snow again. I'm pretty happy to be what most would consider "homeless".

(I run my business online. I have a Verizon mifi device. I pay $145 a month for internet access. Other than insurance, registrations and food/supplies/maintenance - those are my fixed expenses. )

Oh, and I have a little bike I toss on a hitch mounted carrier to make runs to the store or do a little local sightseeing. :-)

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2018, 09:07:28 AM »
Trying to find a practical pick-up these days is next to impossible too. I don't need a full size 4 door cab with a 3 foot cargo bed, that seems to be the only thing out there these days unless you go for the base model work truck. Even finding a used low mile access cab Frontier, Tacoma or Ranger with anything less than 150k miles is difficult unless you want to pay close to $20 grand.

We looked into buying a VW Eurovan a few years ago and it was the same story, $20k for a well used van with 200k miles on it. That kind of money buys a lot of Best Westerns.. 
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2018, 09:22:00 AM »
depends what you want in a pickup. just bought two new ones for the staking guys at work, Ram1500 4dr. 6.5' box 4WD 5.7L with 8 speed auto $34k. sure they are nothing fancy but have bluetooth, etc. and will easily run close to 200k miles, so that's a lot of years I'm thinking?

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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2018, 10:22:20 AM »
Trying to find a practical pick-up these days is next to impossible too. I don't need a full size 4 door cab with a 3 foot cargo bed, that seems to be the only thing out there these days unless you go for the base model work truck.
I was a bit excited when Honda announce they were coming out with a pickup.  But was miffed when it came out - in 4 door only!  I want/need an extended cab with a decent size bed!

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2018, 12:10:47 PM »
Granted, its very different situation for somebody in dire need and has no choice.

I hate to quote my own posts, but in this case...

Stumbled across this a few moments ago. Appropo considering this statement above.

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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2018, 12:32:09 PM »
This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.

I'm surprised you haven't considered a used Sprinter.
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the sprinters are pretty nice, a few of my dirtbike friends have them. hard to find good ones cheap though.

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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2018, 03:08:51 PM »
the sprinters are pretty nice, a few of my dirtbike friends have them. hard to find good ones cheap though.

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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2018, 06:20:56 PM »
Y'all saw where I ended up.  I started out looking at trucks and SUVs.  When a nice used SUV or truck with 100k miles on it is just slightly le$$ than buying new, its a WTF to me.  To top it all off, they get well less than 20 mpg on the fuel economy meter, which truly sucks for budget traveling. 


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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2018, 10:51:26 AM »
Now for something really interesting....also not sold here:

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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2018, 09:43:11 PM »
Now for something really interesting....also not sold here:

https://youtu.be/GIG9P0lB1iA

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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 04:20:38 AM »
I so very much wish VW sold this vehicle here in the States.  This would be perfect for my wife as she travels to Dog shows.  That said, this would replace the 4Runner and I already struggle getting kayaks on/off the Toyota.  Kayaks wouldn't work on this VW rig.  I suppose I'd need to trade one of the cars for a hot wagon for kayaking :) (if only any of the hot wagons sold in Europe were sold here)

BMW 335 wagon...? 300lbs of turbo torque, still way lighter up front and all around than the v8 models. Liz is LOVING her 535 sedan.


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