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CCW - What's your choice?
« on: January 07, 2014, 06:08:13 AM »
I'll be able to get my CCW in WV and have started looking into a good choice or choices for concealment.  I'm torn between size and capacity.  I'm not a fan of anything I can't get my pinky around.  I've seen several and fired a couple of the really small ones and have no interest in either that kind of feel or that low a capacity.

So, what's a good carry gun that's small enough for conceal but large enough to have a decent capacity?  Let's define decent as more than 10 rounds.  Let's bench the arguement about whether or not I need that many rounds in a concealed application and just discuss the hardware. 

I currently have a 9mm and a 45 so for ammo purposes, getting a 40 would require it's own new stock.  Not a dealbreaker but a consideration. 

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 06:24:44 AM »
Get what you want. Buy several. Practice w/ each of them often. Choose which one works best. Get you Class 4 & get something fully automatic. That's what I did.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 07:06:03 AM »
Get what you want. Buy several. Practice w/ each of them often. Choose which one works best. Get you Class 4 & get something fully automatic. That's what I did.


Class 4?  I don't think he needs to carry a Nuc around.  Class 3 will get you full auto.


Back to the question, I have no answer since I have no idea how big your mitt is.  How about tracing it on paper and add some dimensions.  ;D

Or just carry what you currently own.  :shrug:

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2014, 07:08:14 AM »
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 07:09:05 AM »
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2014, 07:12:37 AM »
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2014, 07:13:16 AM »
The single stack Kahr TP-9 is nice and thin without being too small. The Ruger LC9 with the finger extension on the mag might be nice if your hands aren't too large. The Ruger SR9c is pretty thin too for a double stack. I am starting to consider getting something to carry. I have a Walther PPQ at home, but don't want to lug something that big around.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2014, 07:30:43 AM »
Get what you like, but I carry the Beretta Nano 9mm.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2014, 07:46:35 AM »
All I can say is try some different stuff out and see what works for you. I prefer the 40 as it gives me the capacity of a 9mm with a little more knock down power.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2014, 08:05:48 AM »
I like my Walther PPS in .40, with the longer mag it has a full grip.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2014, 08:18:01 AM »
Get what you like, but I carry the Beretta Nano 9mm.

That's one of the ones I fired and didn't care too much for.  Might just be because it's my first "little" gun experience.  I guess I'll revisit and go fire some others. 

My current is a hundred year old Ruger P89DC that weighs about 10 lbs.  Prolly not the best choice for conceal carry.  I'd need hip replacement surgery if I carried that thing for any length of time. 

We looked at a Glock and a S&W M&P but I can 't remember which models.  They were both very slender and a nice mid size viable for conceal.  Didn't like the feel of the Glock but I never have.
I need to let go of the perfect feel issue for a conceal gun.  I mean how important is that really?  That would be like passing on a nice 87 F250 plow truck because you don't like the bench seats. 
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2014, 08:18:20 AM »
I like my Walther PPS in .40, with the longer mag it has a full grip.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2014, 08:21:32 AM »
Ruger SR9c - IWB, S+W 442 - Fobus ankle, S+W Bodyguard - RedDog leather pocket or 1911 - Tagua leather.

Depends on the circumstances/clothing.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2014, 08:38:31 AM »
I carry a SIG/Sauer P239 in .40 S&W off duty.  I'm looking for a nice small gun in .380 ACP for my girl.  As for Kahr, I had a MP40 (?) and it was the biggest POS ever.  Failures to feed, fire, & extract.  It was sent back to Kahr twice with no improvement.  I dumped that junk as soon as I could.  I'd have kept it as a throw down, but who'd believe it actually fired a round?  :lol:  It's a joke people.....

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2014, 08:54:23 AM »
I like my Walther PPS in .40, with the longer mag it has a full grip.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2014, 08:55:55 AM »
Get what you want. Buy several. Practice w/ each of them often. Choose which one works best. Get you Class 4 & get something fully automatic. That's what I did.

I fired plenty of fully auto stuff and other than having a Rambo moment w/ a 60 using one hand, I don't have fond enough memories of any of them to justify getting a civilian equivalent.  Meh. 
Hollywood makes i look so cool but if I'm paying for ammo, there'll be no auto fire anything.  If you need more lead than you can send w/ a semi, you're probably dead.  :) 

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2014, 09:02:12 AM »
I just meant the 1st 3 sentences of my post. The rest was just being silly. Unless you want full auto & explosives!

Get what you want. Buy several. Practice w/ each of them often. Choose which one works best.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2014, 09:53:18 AM »
Have you tried the Gen 4 Glock with the interchangeable grip backstraps? Try a model 27 with the pinky extension on the mag. Should fit your criteria, is relatively affordable, reliable, and not particularly nice looking, so you don't care about scuffs and whatnot from carrying.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2014, 09:56:52 AM »
I like my Walther PPS in .40, with the longer mag it has a full grip.


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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2014, 10:55:06 AM »
My daily is a Sig 229 IWB, however I have been reviewing some smaller firearms as well for ease of concealment and dress code issues.

I have had a decent amount of trigger time on a stock S&W M&P Shield and liked it however I would need to upgrade the trigger.  It's currently getting an Apex trigger installation and I will give it another test hopefully soon.

I was also able to put a few magazines through a Glock G30 (sub-compact 45 ACP), I have never liked glocks because of the ergonomics, I wasn't able to put accurate rounds down range with any of them except this one.  With this G30 I felt like I couldn't miss (mainly shooting clay targets from 3 yards to 7 yards), the sights were upgraded and the trigger was upgraded/modified.  Also had some stippling on the grip that I liked, not sure if it was factory or not.

I would love to get my hands on a Sig P224 for another carry option.  Smaller than my 229 but will accept the same magazines so I can carry larger capacity mags.

A P220 carry would be great too..... or..... or....

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2014, 03:14:16 PM »


I fired plenty of fully auto stuff and other than having a Rambo moment w/ a 60 using one hand, I don't have fond enough memories of any of them to justify getting a civilian equivalent.  Meh. 


Full auto is fun but all sorts of stupid. Burst fire is where its at for "doing the job". ;)  I got nothing for you on CCW, we are not even allowed to open carry anymore in California.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2014, 03:32:15 PM »


I fired plenty of fully auto stuff and other than having a Rambo moment w/ a 60 using one hand, I don't have fond enough memories of any of them to justify getting a civilian equivalent.  Meh. 


Full auto is fun but all sorts of stupid. Burst fire is where its at for "doing the job". ;) 

That.  Full auto is only fun for burning cheap ammo and going Rambo- I have a fair amount of time behind a weapon that shoots 7.62x39.  I'd take a semi over full any day of the week- you just have far better control.   :thumbsup:
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2014, 03:55:50 PM »
I've honestly never felt the need to get my CCW, even though the latest Sac county sheriff is pretty good about issuing them to anyone who wants one and passes the background checks.

That being said, I bought a 9mm Ruger SR9c if I change my mind in the near future.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2014, 03:58:41 PM »
I've honestly never felt the need to get my CCW, even though the latest Sac county sheriff is pretty good about issuing them to anyone who wants one and passes the background checks.

That being said, I bought a 9mm Ruger SR9c if I change my mind in the near future.

Huh?

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2014, 04:00:59 PM »
I like the 1911 format due to the skinny profile with a single stack.  And, I like the additional mechanical safeties (thumb and grip).

My CCW is a Kimber Super Carry Ultra .45 ACP.  With the various polymers in our safe, it's nice to have at least one that's pretty to look at.   :D

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2014, 04:09:19 PM »
Huh?

In The Republic of Massachusetts you can't purchase a fire arm UNTIL you have a carry permit.


In NC, you can acquire a handgun with either a purchase permit offered by the local sheriff or with a valid CC permit.  The purchase permit requires a new background check be completed for each purchase. 
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2014, 04:14:03 PM »
I've honestly never felt the need to get my CCW, even though the latest Sac county sheriff is pretty good about issuing them to anyone who wants one and passes the background checks.

That being said, I bought a 9mm Ruger SR9c if I change my mind in the near future.

Huh?

In The Republic of Massachusetts you can't purchase a fire arm UNTIL you have a carry permit.

We can buy handguns only after obtaining a "Handgun Safety Certificate" which is issued after passing a 25 question test once every 5 years. Once you have that card, you need to show it to the nice man selling you the piece and show him that you know which end is the pointy end. 10 day waiting period and you pick up your shootin' iron. No permit needed, except to carry.
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2014, 06:25:06 PM »

We can buy handguns only after obtaining a "Handgun Safety Certificate" which is issued after passing a 25 question test once every 5 years. Once you have that card, you need to show it to the nice man selling you the piece and show him that you know which end is the pointy end. 10 day waiting period and you pick up your shootin' iron. No permit needed, except to carry.

Yeah its funny how California gets mocked about its gun laws when there are MUCH worse states out there. You don't need no stinking permit to buy a handgun here......yet. In free states you walk in put your money down and walk out with a gun. I grew up in a free state so even California's silly little laws were a bit to swallow but I am getting by.  8)
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2014, 06:30:03 PM »
Same thing here.

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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2014, 07:05:20 PM »
No background check? I was of the thought they are in all states?  CO is background check and depending upon backlog it's either 10 minutes or perhaps 10 days...
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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2014, 07:14:02 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2014, 07:23:31 PM »
No background check? I was of the thought they are in all states?  CO is background check and depending upon backlog it's either 10 minutes or perhaps 10 days...

Yes its an instant check in most cases.

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2014, 07:26:09 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.

Private sales have to follow the state laws in some states. In california a transfer has to be done at a dealer.

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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2014, 07:33:21 PM »
Personal sales (often called the "Gun Show Loophole") just changed in CO. They did not used to be background check required, now they are.

I'm curious if it'll change back after the next state elections (if things sway away from Democrat).
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2014, 07:40:01 PM »
Can't wait to see how my background check goes given my...day job.  The good news is that all I have to do to get said permit is go to sher'f's office w/ my DD214 and I'm good.  :)  Wifey will have to take the NRA course before she can get hers.

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2014, 07:42:52 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.

Private sales have to follow the state laws in some states. In california a transfer has to be done at a dealer.

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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2014, 09:40:58 PM »

If you choose to do so legally. Personally, I like to buy guns w/ all of the identifying marks ground off.


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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2014, 10:39:42 AM »
There are no provisions for average people to carry concealed in Canada under most circumstances, so I only do it if I'm in a particular situation that allows it (I.e. out of the country etc.  For me that's about 10% of the time, maybe a little less).

I carry a full size 1911, AIWB.
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2014, 12:28:54 PM »
There are no provisions for average people to carry concealed in Canada under most circumstances, so I only do it if I'm in a particular situation that allows it (I.e. out of the country etc.  For me that's about 10% of the time, maybe a little less).

I carry a full size 1911, AIWB.

How do you transport across the border?  Is there any special paperwork or documentation required?
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2014, 12:46:50 PM »
To the US would be ATF Form 6.

I guess to be fair I should say that depending on where I'm going, why, and with how much notice it's also not uncommon for there to be a gun waiting for me, in which case it's usually a 9mm glock.  And in that case I prefer to carry at 4 o'clock.

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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2014, 01:04:31 PM »
To the US would be ATF Form 6.

I guess to be fair I should say that depending on where I'm going, why, and with how much notice it's also not uncommon for there to be a gun waiting for me, in which case it's usually a 9mm glock.  And in that case I prefer to carry at 4 o'clock.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2014, 02:16:25 PM »
To the US would be ATF Form 6.

I guess to be fair I should say that depending on where I'm going, why, and with how much notice it's also not uncommon for there to be a gun waiting for me, in which case it's usually a 9mm glock.  And in that case I prefer to carry at 4 o'clock.

For the whole rest of the world, that's pretty much all you'll ever get.

Interesting - can you elaborate on your travels and what takes you there?  Having spent 25 years in D.C. I can understand if you cannot - but most have so flexibility as to what they can say.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2014, 02:19:39 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.

It's illegal in NC for a private sell where the seller doesn't receive a notarized purchase permit from the Sherrif's office or a copy of the buyer's CWP.

To the US would be ATF Form 6.

I guess to be fair I should say that depending on where I'm going, why, and with how much notice it's also not uncommon for there to be a gun waiting for me, in which case it's usually a 9mm glock.  And in that case I prefer to carry at 4 o'clock.

For the whole rest of the world, that's pretty much all you'll ever get.

Thanks for the reply.  I did not know how this was done.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2014, 02:24:55 PM »
Mostly it's connected with the company I used to own and now contract back to, which does a bunch of branding, strategic direction and procurement work within the defense and law enforcement industries, or else I just got invited to come train or compete somewhere.

Now that I contract, it's probably more of the latter. Definitely more than it used to be, anyway.

But I am mainly valued for my communication skills. I'm not a spook or door kicker or anything.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2014, 02:30:30 PM »
I'm sure you're already very familiar with many state laws, but NY and MD (and DC) are extremely aggressive about transport of weapons.  My postmaster was arrested--not just ticketed--for having a handgun locked in a gun case in the back of his Jeep.  Reason:  It was not locked in a trunk and could be obtained while the car was moving. 

It was eventually thrown out by a judge, but cost him legal fees and he has to answer yes to "Have you ever been arrested..." questions on everything from government forms to job applications.

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2014, 02:33:08 PM »
NY is a headache. I'll be there in march and I just gave up on having anything with me beyond a swiss army knife.

Well, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration. But still.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2014, 02:38:02 PM »
NY is a headache. I'll be there in march and I just gave up on having anything with me beyond a swiss army knife.

Well, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration. But still.

MA may be in the same boat.  I just rarely go there. 

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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2014, 02:41:02 PM »
Well, I'm from Canada. I guess I'm not really in any position to talk.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2014, 04:40:14 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.

It's illegal in NC for a private sell where the seller doesn't receive a notarized purchase permit from the Sherrif's office or a copy of the buyer's CWP.






I would think that it's illegal anywhere. It was a joke. I don't buy my guns from the trunks of cars. I buy them at an authorized gun dealer like the rest of the law abiding tax paying citizens in the US.
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Re: CCW - What's your choice?
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2014, 04:51:31 PM »
No background checks when you buy a gun out of the trunk of a car.

It's illegal in NC for a private sell where the seller doesn't receive a notarized purchase permit from the Sherrif's office or a copy of the buyer's CWP.






I would think that it's illegal anywhere. It was a joke. I don't buy my guns from the trunks of cars. I buy them at an authorized gun dealer like the rest of the law abiding tax paying citizens in the US.

you are missing out on some good deals. I picked up a SKS with 200 rounds of ammo for $70 and a beer. you have to hang out in shady places but I'm used to that.
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