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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #250 on: November 04, 2018, 08:10:24 AM »
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« Reply #251 on: November 04, 2018, 03:49:12 PM »
This race was hard for me to call. With dry practice and then a wet qualifying, I had trouble figuring out how the mid to back pack was going to do.Has Rossi at P2, but I guess most folks had him high so that was a wash. I'm not complaining, but must do better in Spain or it will rain on my plain. 

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« Reply #252 on: November 04, 2018, 04:18:35 PM »
kneescrubber and I pass each other at every corner. We'll see if I can hang on to it this time. Sadly, neither of us has much chance of a win unless both biking sailor and motociclista forget to put their picks in. Hope you guys lose your internet for a few days.   ;)

I was pretty surprised by Duc's showing today. You'd think they'd be towards the front with those long straights (and dry practice times). I had Dovi 2nd and Petrucci 6th. I even had Pirro in the points. Didn't happen...
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« Reply #253 on: November 04, 2018, 05:05:15 PM »
Think I'll put some preliminary picks in now. Let's see, P1 Maq, P2 ...

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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #254 on: November 04, 2018, 06:43:13 PM »
This race was hard for me to call. With dry practice and then a wet qualifying, I had trouble figuring out how the mid to back pack was going to do.Has Rossi at P2, but I guess most folks had him high so that was a wash. I'm not complaining, but must do better in Spain or it will rain on my plain.

Hmm. Interesting. I had Rossi in P5 so if he hadn't crashed you would have picked up quite a few points on me. Maybe enough to seal the deal. I overestimated ViƱales' ability to come through the field like he did at Phillip Island and even though I had Rins fairly high, it was not high enough.
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« Reply #255 on: November 04, 2018, 07:43:26 PM »
Up until lap 15, I was feeling pretty good with my picks and ready to settle in on a good 93/46 dog fight. I had 25 spot on, overestimated 04 and underestimated 42 and 5.  In the back of my mind I was worried it would turn into a flag to flag and hedged my bets a little in that way.

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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #256 on: November 16, 2018, 07:52:54 AM »
Don't forget to get your picks in for the final round. Looks like it will be "bucketing down" as the British announcers like to say, so that throws some more uncertainty into the mix.

Team HM Faceplant and Punk Ass Kid have had a tremendous battle most of the season for the last spot on the podium, and I have at least an outside shot at denying Biking Sailor the EOE Cup in his rookie year.

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« Reply #257 on: November 17, 2018, 05:05:17 PM »
let's see, wet picks or dry picks?  :-\

They are quite different!

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« Reply #258 on: November 18, 2018, 09:05:29 AM »
never seen so many DNFs on my picks before. Looks like the door is swung wide open.

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« Reply #259 on: November 18, 2018, 10:22:28 AM »
Just saw the results. Now that is kinda funny.   ;D

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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #260 on: November 18, 2018, 10:28:39 AM »
And the 2018 EOE Cup champion is:

We don't know!

I told you guys we needed a tie-breaker in place this year.

Meanwhile, in the fight for the last podium spot, which has been going on for many rounds, Punk Ass Kid nipped Team HM Faceplant at the line.

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« Reply #261 on: November 18, 2018, 10:31:15 AM »
Feeling a bit like Pol Espargaro right now. Just thankful to be on the podium.
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« Reply #262 on: November 18, 2018, 12:04:02 PM »
A great season, thanks for doing this I'll be back next year and hopefully keep the DNF's to a minimum.
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« Reply #263 on: November 18, 2018, 12:04:56 PM »
Feeling a bit like Pol Espargaro right now. Just thankful to be on the podium.

Was a cool moment. Lots of adversity throughout the season and finally gets on the podium of the last race.

Although again I had Rossi pretty high, then he goes down to break my heart.  :o

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« Reply #264 on: November 18, 2018, 12:06:37 PM »
A great season, thanks for doing this I'll be back next year and hopefully keep the DNF's to a minimum.

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« Reply #265 on: November 18, 2018, 12:54:04 PM »
Feeling a bit like Pol Espargaro right now. Just thankful to be on the podium.

Was a cool moment. Lots of adversity throughout the season and finally gets on the podium of the last race.

Although again I had Rossi pretty high, then he goes down to break my heart:o

Again. I sure hope Yamaha solves their problems over the winter.
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« Reply #266 on: November 18, 2018, 01:35:06 PM »
Bugger!  Everyone hit the ground!  49 points.
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« Reply #267 on: November 18, 2018, 04:43:27 PM »
Bugger!  Everyone hit the ground!  49 points.

Crazy race. Only two people in the world scored in the 90s in this round. I never expected to score 55 points and still make up the five points I needed to catch Biking Sailor.

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« Reply #268 on: November 18, 2018, 04:45:10 PM »
Although again I had Rossi pretty high, then he goes down to break my heart.  :o

So basically you can blame Vale for costing you the EOE Cup outright championship. Sounds like you had him higher than me in both the last two races, so if he hadn't crashed in both, you'd have won easily.
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« Reply #269 on: November 18, 2018, 06:31:08 PM »
So basically you can blame Vale for costing you the EOE Cup outright championship. Sounds like you had him higher than me in both the last two races, so if he hadn't crashed in both, you'd have won easily.

Well I don't think he did it on purpose.   ;D  And one guy doesn't, or shouldn't, make or break my score. Previous races I seemed to be on the wrong side of Rins' results regularly.

Basically I thought Rossi was capable of really good race pace based on analysis of his practice and qualifying lap times in the last two races. In this last weekend his dry times sucked, but his wet times, FP1, 2 & 3 along with the morning warmup had him in the top 5 on those sessions. He was doing even better than I had thought in both races until hitting the floor.

Funny thing is, I'm no Rossi fan. Lot of respect for what he has accomplished over so many years and how even at 39, he is still competitive with the top younger guys. Don't know why but I find myself pulling for Spanish riders a lot.

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« Reply #270 on: November 18, 2018, 07:48:48 PM »
I find this funny. I had Marquez dnf and Rossi way down. But the sheer number of dnfs played a big part today (yesterday). Who would've expected a restart after a red flag that had less than half of the original grid? And dnfs from that group?
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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #271 on: November 18, 2018, 08:11:13 PM »
Congrats to our winner(s) ???
Guess I was the highest finishing DNS'er.
My DNS cost me the last spot on the podium but PAK much deserves it as he started every round.

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« Reply #272 on: November 19, 2018, 11:45:13 AM »
Although again I had Rossi pretty high, then he goes down to break my heart.  :o

So basically you can blame Vale for costing you the EOE Cup outright championship. Sounds like you had him higher than me in both the last two races, so if he hadn't crashed in both, you'd have won easily.
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« Reply #273 on: November 19, 2018, 03:01:11 PM »
Congrats to our winner(s) ???
Guess I was the highest finishing DNS'er.
My DNS cost me the last spot on the podium but PAK much deserves it as he started every round.

Ed, I would be more than glad to pick-up the tab for the trophy this year. Not right that you should have to foot the bill for it every year.

Thanks much, but I think of it as a contribution to the board.

Two winners! I'll be sending PMs to both of you.

I was a business trip and didn't get to see the race until this morning. Holy poop. So many went down, I had no idea where I was finishing. Grrrr on missing that last podium spot.   :baldy:

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« Reply #274 on: November 20, 2018, 12:14:42 PM »
Ed, I would be more than glad to pick-up the tab for the trophy this year. Not right that you should have to foot the bill for it every year.

Thanks much, but I think of it as a contribution to the board.
Awesome season. I'm already stoked for the next one.

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« Reply #275 on: November 20, 2018, 05:37:39 PM »
I just want to thank you guys for letting me play in your league. It made the fun factor go way up. Plus, I did not even know about the MotoGP league until I read about it here. Can't wait for next year.

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« Reply #276 on: November 20, 2018, 08:11:27 PM »
I just want to thank you guys for letting me play in your league. It made the fun factor go way up. Plus, I did not even know about the MotoGP league until I read about it here. Can't wait for next year.

You shook up the establishment a bit. That's a good thing...
 

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« Reply #277 on: November 21, 2018, 08:41:21 AM »
And so that it is always remembered...

The STO: EOE Hall of Champions:

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2011:  RRdvark
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2013:  Slippin

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2011:  motodog650
2012:  R Doug
2013:  motociclista
2014:  squeezer
2015:  motodog650
2016:  motodog650
2017:  motociclista
2018:  TIE!: biking sailor & motociclista
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« Reply #278 on: November 21, 2018, 05:52:07 PM »
I finally caught Motodog with three EOE Cups.

Err, uh, maybe I didn't. Maybe I have 2.5 EOE Cups. I'm not sure.
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« Reply #279 on: November 23, 2018, 09:27:35 AM »
I finally caught Motodog with three EOE Cups.

Err, uh, maybe I didn't. Maybe I have 2.5 EOE Cups. I'm not sure.

Maybe a tie breaker should be used. Who picked the race winner more. If a tie exists there then who got more correct 2nd place picks ? Dunno, just think ties kinda suck...

We'll just say we've got 3 each Lance, at least until I win #4 next year  ;)

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« Reply #280 on: November 23, 2018, 03:30:24 PM »
How does the MotoGP league determine places? I know there are a bunch of folks that have the same points but they are assigned a place in some sort of order.

If that assignment has an sequence of tie breaking, such as number of firsts, then seconds..., might be a way to go.

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« Reply #281 on: November 23, 2018, 08:40:57 PM »
How does the MotoGP league determine places? I know there are a bunch of folks that have the same points but they are assigned a place in some sort of order.

If that assignment has an sequence of tie breaking, such as number of firsts, then seconds..., might be a way to go.


I was curious about that myself so I looked at the MotoGP.com rules to see how they settle ties. It's there in number 13 of the terms and conditions.

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Not a very satisfying solution, even though it would benefit me in this case.
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« Reply #282 on: November 23, 2018, 08:59:39 PM »
I agree that is a no go tie breaker.

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How many years ago did you sign up for a MotoGP account? I don't remember when I did. I just registered for the league this year.

Edit, looked it up and registered and subscribed to MotoGP 4 years ago. I have been on auto renew for the video pass since the first year. Before that I had checked their site but only as a visitor, they didn't have my name of email address (unless Zuckerburg gave it to them).
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« Reply #283 on: November 24, 2018, 03:20:42 PM »
Ah, yeah, guess I was wrong when I said that tiebreaker would favor me.

Anyway, my current account at MotoGP.com is only two or three years old. Before that, I was registered under a different e-mail and something got screwed up (can't remember what, now), so I created a new account with a different e-mail address. So that's why I officially haven't been signed up for very long even though I really have.

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« Reply #284 on: November 24, 2018, 05:02:25 PM »
Tie breaker is a tricky one that all needs to agree to before the racing starts.

Most first place picks might be hard to determine easily. What about most updates between races in first place? That would be easy to go back and check the standings in the thread.

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« Reply #285 on: November 24, 2018, 05:15:55 PM »
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« Reply #286 on: November 26, 2018, 12:25:40 PM »
^^^
That's a slick looking trio!   :D


On ties:  Yeah, we need to sort that out before the racing starts. Maybe head-to-head, who beat who the most number of times? Motociclista -- since you're the one posting updates, you probably have a better sense of how easy it is to search for something like that. Is it something that could be done without a major hassle?
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« Reply #287 on: November 26, 2018, 05:50:14 PM »
^^^
That's a slick looking trio!   :D

Thanks! I will look even better when I add my two nearly identical RevZilla trophies. (Assuming they give out a trophy this year. My trophy from last year is still at ZLA HQ.)

On ties:  Yeah, we need to sort that out before the racing starts. Maybe head-to-head, who beat who the most number of times? Motociclista -- since you're the one posting updates, you probably have a better sense of how easy it is to search for something like that. Is it something that could be done without a major hassle?

So, not to bore everyone, but what I do after each round is search the thousands of MotoGP.com league participants in the overall standings and find the members of our little league and put their points totals in our table. To keep track of who finished ahead of whom in individual rounds, I'd have to change my system and search the results of each round and store all those numbers with running totals. That would get too unwieldy to put in a forum post so I could create a Google Doc spreadsheet and link to it from the forum posts. Actually, that's exactly what the guy who tracks the results of the ZLA league does.

If I kept track of the weekly scores, instead of just the running totals, it would be easy to use any kind of tie-breaker, such as who finished first most often.

An easier tie-breaker (without tracking individual rounds) would be who scored best in the last race. With the next-to-last race being the tie-tie-breaker, etc. Or who scored best in the first race (which is harder, really). I'm open-minded.
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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #288 on: November 27, 2018, 02:03:01 PM »

An easier tie-breaker (without tracking individual rounds) would be who scored best in the last race. With the next-to-last race being the tie-tie-breaker, etc. Or who scored best in the first race (which is harder, really). I'm open-minded.

I like this. I vote for easy. The other system seems like way too much work, especially to handle a problem that is unlikely to happen again.
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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #289 on: November 27, 2018, 03:32:07 PM »
what he said^ (if backmarkers have a vote??)
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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #290 on: November 30, 2018, 12:39:20 PM »
Thanks Ed and Lance for your efforts in keeping the EOE Cup a worthwhile endeavor  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #291 on: November 30, 2018, 06:18:29 PM »
Got the trophy today. Much nicer, and bigger, than I thought it would be. My wife really likes it an wants to show it off to her customers.

Thanks Ed, you are really stepping up big doing this!

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Re: 2018 MotoGP Fantasy League: The Run for the Highly Coveted EOE Cup!
« Reply #292 on: January 01, 2019, 06:56:40 PM »
Ghost writer here. Since Lance does the majority of the work, I vote for whatever is easiest for him. Thanks again Lance and Ed. I promise not to be a prom queen again.
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