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« on: January 09, 2018, 01:14:17 PM »
I am going to paint part of our apartment!!!  :banana:


There are a lot of angles (due to the vaulted ceiling, etc) which has left me with this conundrum: So how I keep a clean line when the sloping ceiling creates a really right angle?

I'm too lazy to take a photo of the actual corner (but I will, if it will help), but I have snagged this one from the 'net.

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Is there something I can use to keep the ceiling white and the line clean? Or is it just a matter of running tape along the edge (backfilling it with some white paint) and then working a small brush in there? :shrug:   Thanks for your input!
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 01:19:57 PM »
Don't tape, practice a bit and go freehand. A small brush will get the small corner.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 01:20:22 PM »
A steady hand and good brush.
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 01:30:23 PM »
Hmmm. Yes, I suppose I could do that. Fortunately it is not a long span!
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 02:01:25 PM »
I usually free hand it. Slow and steady and make sure to use no more paint on the brush than you need and clean it frequently.

Every time I've tried taping, the tape had made more mess than it helped avoid... and it's absolutely a nightmare if your surfaces are uneven and ragged.

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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 02:01:36 PM »
Don't tape, practice a bit and go freehand. A small brush will get the small corner.

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Expect to spend some time with a small, good brush with the white ceiling paint to straighten out any errors.
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 02:10:55 PM »
My wife uses an edge paint brush. My neighbor is a pro house painter. He used an edge tool when he did our rec room. He also used painter's tape.

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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 02:28:20 PM »
An edge tool only works if the corner plaster is perfect.  If there is any texture it won't do the job at all- and this is also true to an extent for tape.

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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 02:30:54 PM »
I call boocrap on the freehand stuff.  8000 tiny pieces of tape.  The only thing about tape that is challenging is pulling it off the wrong way.  Think ahead, leave an edge to grab, calculate proper overlap so that you can pull multiple pieces at once, and maybe keep a nice scalpel available to assist should anything not go as planned.  :)  I'm an expert as I've watched my wife paint successfully many many times. 

That edge tool will make you hate things.  If you have a perfect surface and a perfect corner, maybe.  Real world, paint will get behind it. 
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 02:50:49 PM »
I call boocrap on the freehand stuff.  8000 tiny pieces of tape.  The only thing about tape that is challenging is pulling it off the wrong way.  Think ahead, leave an edge to grab, calculate proper overlap so that you can pull multiple pieces at once, and maybe keep a nice scalpel available to assist should anything not go as planned.  :)  I'm an expert as I've watched my wife paint successfully many many times

That edge tool will make you hate things.  If you have a perfect surface and a perfect corner, maybe.  Real world, paint will get behind it.

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Painter's tape is mo easier to remove, or so my wife says. Don't use regular masking tape.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 04:12:31 PM »
Get a few different size drywall knifes to use as straightedges. 3"-12". Use a good 2" brush. No tape. Keep a rag handy and Q-tips & Goof Off.

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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2018, 05:03:36 PM »
I use a small drywall knife as a straightedge.  Don’t like tape because it will peel off fresh paint if you’re not care how you pull it off.  For tight corners in small areas, use a small brush.

BTW, that’s not a right angle.  D@mn spellchecker is mindless
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 05:48:08 PM »
I've used that edge brush thingy and had pretty good results with it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 06:29:56 PM »
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 07:17:34 PM »
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2018, 07:55:45 PM »
I call boocrap on the freehand stuff.  8000 tiny pieces of tape.  The only thing about tape that is challenging is pulling it off the wrong way.  Think ahead, leave an edge to grab, calculate proper overlap so that you can pull multiple pieces at once, and maybe keep a nice scalpel available to assist should anything not go as planned.  :)  I'm an expert as I've watched my wife paint successfully many many times. 

That edge tool will make you hate things.  If you have a perfect surface and a perfect corner, maybe.  Real world, paint will get behind it.

8000 pieces of tape is WAY too time consuming, and paint will get under painters tape. Plus it can still pull off the paint beneath it. Edge guides have to be cleaned way too often to be worth while. Practice a bit in the middle of the wall to straight line and you will develop the technique. I have painted rooms with popcorn ceilings this way, you can't tape that stuff off.
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2018, 08:56:04 PM »
Plus free hand is way faster than tape or a knife, if you can get the technique down pat.

Get a good quality chisel brush, little bit of paint on the edge, push it up and draw it along the line.  Don't load your brush with paint, it won't hold up long before it gets sloppy. 
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2018, 09:34:34 PM »

I'm too lazy to take a photo of the actual corner



Then do yourself a favour and do not start this job!!  8)

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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2018, 09:49:38 PM »
Pay Miles to come do it for you.


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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2018, 12:12:54 AM »

I'm too lazy to take a photo of the actual corner



Then do yourself a favour and do not start this job!!  8)

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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 12:13:30 AM »
Pay Miles to come do it for you.


I'll be in Yurp in March...

I better be done by then, but.... will you be anywhere nearby? It'd be fun to say hi!  :wave:
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 06:19:36 AM »
Plus free hand is way faster than tape or a knife, if you can get the technique down pat.

Get a good quality chisel brush, little bit of paint on the edge, push it up and draw it along the line.  Don't load your brush with paint, it won't hold up long before it gets sloppy.

That is a good description of the technique.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 06:55:06 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 08:19:10 AM »
Hire someone else to do it.

If you have Bill Gates money, sure.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 08:23:37 AM »
Hire someone else to do it.

If you have Bill Gates money, sure.

Seriously. This is Switzerland.

I bought a couple of small brushes that ought to do the trick. I'm trying to motivate myself to put on some "painting clothes" and go make a mess  :redface:  I should do this while the cats are sleeping. Otherwise I'll have blue cats running around the place  :willy:
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 08:32:21 AM »
Hire someone else to do it.

If you have Bill Gates money, sure.

Seriously. This is Switzerland.

I bought a couple of small brushes that ought to do the trick. I'm trying to motivate myself to put on some "painting clothes" and go make a mess  :redface:  I should do this while the cats are sleeping. Otherwise I'll have blue cats running around the place  :willy:

Oh please.  They won't be completely blue.

Maybe just blue points.  :razz:

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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 01:41:08 PM »
Pay Miles to come do it for you.


I'll be in Yurp in March...

I better be done by then, but.... will you be anywhere nearby? It'd be fun to say hi!  :wave:


The far southwest corner.  So, not very close at all, except for the fact I'll probably be transferring in Frankfurt...
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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2018, 02:21:36 PM »
Pay Miles to come do it for you.


I'll be in Yurp in March...

I better be done by then, but.... will you be anywhere nearby? It'd be fun to say hi!  :wave:


The far southwest corner.  So, not very close at all, except for the fact I'll probably be transferring in Frankfurt...

I'll wave as you fly overhead  :wave:


Ok, painting has commenced. I have a small, short-bristled brush that I'm using for the edging (in the tight spaces), but I think I'll get one of those edger do-dads for the long, straight edges.

So far, so good. No cats got into the paint - yet. One tried before I shooed him away  :redface: )
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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2018, 07:06:17 PM »
Just an observation, but that's what, 5 meters up? How many are going to be able to tell how much outside of the line you've painted from down here?
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2018, 07:56:31 PM »
Upon the visit of any STOner, a right critical review of said painting job shall be top docket !!

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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 07:26:21 AM »
Just an observation, but that's what, 5 meters up? How many are going to be able to tell how much outside of the line you've painted from down here?

Nope, this is in a different room. It is a little alcove where the toilet is, so the painted wall will be right in front a guy's face, assuming he's not sitting down

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The max height is something like 1.5 meters - just high enough that I need a stool to paint the top edge.
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2018, 09:29:53 AM »
I figured that would amuse someone  8)


Painting is done. Ended up free-handing all of the edges, and taping where it meets up with the tile near the bottom. I think that it turned out pretty good and I'll post up a picture later. My only compliant is that the "color match" doesn't match - at all. I mean yes, the color is blue, but it is not the light blue that I had selected from the sample book.  :-[
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Re: Wall painting question
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2018, 09:32:33 AM »
did you take the sample book home with you?  lighting is a huge factor in color perception. I discovered this the hard way as well :-[

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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2018, 09:59:07 AM »
Yes, I did, which just makes me more disappointed with the results.
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2018, 10:29:38 AM »
psst - visitors - NO critical review of the color.

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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2018, 11:03:17 AM »
Yes, I did, which just makes me more disappointed with the results.

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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 11:03:50 AM »
Free handing wasn't too bad was it?
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2018, 02:58:40 PM »
Free handing wasn't too bad was it?
No, actually it went quite well (if I may say so myself). It really was tricky getting the brush up into the narrow bits where the ceiling angles down. And of course there is a natural wood beam that projects near the back, so I had to be careful around that, too... but now I am done (with that room, at least)
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2018, 05:50:30 AM »
did you take the sample book home with you?  lighting is a huge factor in color perception. I discovered this the hard way as well :-[

We have stopped taking the sample book home after getting burned several times on paint colors. We buy the small sample cans and put up a larger sample on the wall of the actual paint. Light IS a huge factor. We just had the family room and kitchen done and painted 3 different color samples, each on 3 different walls. The lighting made all of them look completely different. I said to the wife i like this one but i dont like that one. She say's but they are the same color.  :facepalm:

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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2018, 08:46:06 AM »
That & the color samples fade after they are printed.

The samples are made with different dyes & pigments and printed with a different structure than the paint.

Even if - BIG IF - the color samples match when they are made, the colors generally shift as they age.

Plus the paint mixing devices at the store may not be accurately calibrated. 

And you thought it was just metamerism.

Alll that being said, we always use the swabs.  Choose carefully. 

A fresh coat of paint always livens a room up.  Enjoy. 

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