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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2018, 08:49:03 PM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2018, 01:15:20 PM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2018, 09:48:48 AM »
I'm officially obsessed with the R.  I can't wait to put hands and feet and butt on one of these things. 

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2019, 03:36:04 PM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2019, 08:42:13 AM »
Pricing released:

https://www.cycleworld.com/2019-ktm-790-adventure-gets-an-attractive-price

Ooh, that's very competitive. That will work for a lot of folks.

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2019, 04:22:19 PM »
Looks like the new 790 Adv had a big weekend.  Waiting for more english speaking reviews from this event.

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2019, 10:50:17 AM »
Go to 41:33.  I assume this is KTM footage of Chris Birch but still.  For a stock bike... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wu3g9WofOk&t=411s

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2019, 02:34:55 PM »
Go to 41:33.  I assume this is KTM footage of Chris Birch on a bike he doesn't have to pay for, but still.  For a stock bike... 




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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2019, 04:34:42 PM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2019, 06:26:57 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWlmOeq8ANA

good review

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2019, 06:27:10 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWlmOeq8ANA

good review



Oh my.   It appears to be a great bike.   



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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2019, 08:42:00 PM »
Go to 41:33.  I assume this is KTM footage of Chris Birch but still.  For a stock bike... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wu3g9WofOk&t=411s

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2019, 06:29:46 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWlmOeq8ANA

good review



Oh my.   It appears to be a great bike.   



hummmmmm......

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2019, 06:07:54 PM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2019, 08:05:21 AM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2019, 08:36:55 AM »
I'm happy with my 790 Adventure R. It strikes a nice balance between on and off-road abilities.  It's far easier to pick up than the 800XC or 1190R I've owned. Difficult to say with certainty since I sold the 690 and can't do back to back comparisons, however the 790 inspires a lot more confidence than I had with the 690 offroad which given aa 100+lb weight disadvantage for the 790 says a lot.  It's not quite as comfy to me as the 1190R or 800XC but it's not far off from them which makes it's head and shoulders above the 690 for comfort, especially for long distance runs. The 790 Adventures one Achilles heal IMHO is the weak skid plate.  I have been careful not to test it so far. Looking forward to getting a better aftermarket one soon.

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2019, 08:37:28 AM »
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2019, 09:33:16 PM »
Black Dog should have the skid plate answer shortly
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2019, 09:02:27 AM »
So the 790 R is more confidence inspiring off-road than the 690 despite the huge weight difference? That's impressive. And you don't even have proper tires for off-road stuff yet. I was thinking a 690/701 would be my next bike (to replace the 530 some day) as a light weight adventure bike, but if the 790 R is really that good.. Hmmmm....

EDIT: After watching the video I see you have upgraded the tires...
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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #71 on: July 06, 2019, 08:54:50 AM »
So the 790 R is more confidence inspiring off-road than the 690 despite the huge weight difference? That's impressive. And you don't even have proper tires for off-road stuff yet. I was thinking a 690/701 would be my next bike (to replace the 530 some day) as a light weight adventure bike, but if the 790 R is really that good.. Hmmmm....

EDIT: After watching the video I see you have upgraded the tires...

The smoother motor in the 701s and brand new 690 might have caused my opinion to shift though I don't know that it would be enough to make me consider the 690/701 a better long distance mount.

Over time my gripes with the 690 were:
Vibes were very evident by the end of a long day.
Seat concepts seat and a pair of padded shorts made high mile days doable but not what I would call comfortable.
In 9k miles I was never able to completely tune out a tendency to occasionally get squirrelly at 70mph+ speeds with dirt rims on it. It was fine in SM trim.
In stock form fuel range was short. Around 130+/-  miles to reserve typically. New model has a bit larger tank though.
The chassis and suspension tended to occasionally surprise me with an unexpected reaction off-road that I failed to completely tune out of it.
For a "dirt bike" the turning radius very was poor.

However, the new owner I sold it to loves it, so there ya go. ;)


The low COG of the 790 makes it very light handling. I found I was almost immediately able to perform an occasional low speed full lock turn which is something I can't do well at all on most bikes. 
Unlike bikes with tall tanks (800XC & 1190R) I don't really notice a change in perceived weight between a full tank and a nearly empty one.
The bike is "predictable" for lack of a better term. I hit an obstacle while offroad and the bikes reaction is what I expect it to be.  This is a huge advantage for me because I have a small degree of vertigo due to Menieres which makes unexpected shifts in balance problematic.
Fuel range in mixed on and off pavement riding nets me around 220 miles to reserve, with a gallon of gas remaining.


The cons as I see them compared to other bikes:  No matter where the weight is stored, you can't deny physics. This bike weighs 465-470lbs with a full tank.  I don't care what you do, getting that much weight moving when it's someplace it would rather stay is harder than with a lighter bike.  That weight will also make itself known in soft terrain (sand, mud, etc) by sinking further into the terrain than a lighter bike would. Weight aside though, the bikes tracks exceptionally well in soft terrain compared to many bikes (including the 690).

Comfort - As mentioned, less comfy than a full blown full size ADV bike on the road. I have a long inseam and have a tall seat on order to open up the peg to seat distance (had to do the same on the 690 but went with lower pegs on it).

Engine - Solid motor that leans towards wanting to be run hard versus run lazy. That can be both good and bad. Sometimes on an ADV bike I want to be a bit lazy. The motor will do it, but it's not where it shines. Trying to use very low rpm to grunt your way through something in 2nd gear can lead to an occasional stall. It's better than the 800XC in this regard but not as good as the 1190.  Clutch work is still your friend in these instances.

And the skid plate... Sigh. If it wasn't for all the things I love about the bike I'd be more upset about it.  In stock trim (and possibly in any trim),  it's best to choose good lines and don't blow launches over obstacles taller than the ground clearance of the bike.  The stock plate is made from Budweiser beer cans and I'm not sure what will be required to get a proper one attached. I am certain a thicker one by itself is not a good solution. It's will also need more robust mounting points.
With all that said though, I've ridden the bike about as hard as I would be likely to on a long distance adventure far from home and to date the skid plate has remained unharmed.

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2019, 03:01:42 PM »
Good info James.  Thanks.  Have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6sIb3FrIPw&t=213s

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Re: 790 Duke & Adventure R - 2018?
« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2019, 03:52:19 PM »
Just received my weekly e-mail update from Black Dog, they have a 790 in their shop at the this very moment. I would expect a decent skid pate with solid mounts in a month or so. love the one I got from them for my 1190.
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