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Talk to me about running
« on: August 24, 2016, 10:39:54 PM »
So I have started running, and have done a 5k with 9:52 a mile and run 4 miles at 10:48 a mile. So who here is a runner and what advice can you give a 55 year old guy who wants to do a 10k or maybe even a half marathon?
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 11:00:02 PM »
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 11:01:58 PM »
If you can run 60% of the distance on a training run, you can run the event.  That is to say that if you can run 6K in training, a 10k race will be no problem.


Here's a tip that goes against popular thinking:  Don't worry much about hydration.  Seriously, it's overhyped.  If you drink enough water in your typical day, there is no need to worry about taking on additional fluids during your exercise.  Maybe a sip of water as you pass the aid station, but that's it.  Don't run with a bottle of water in your hand.

The reason I say this is that you simply don't lose that much water in any event lasting less than a couple of hours, and your stomach really doesn't need the stress of trying to absorb any fluids.  In the same thinking, don't drink right before the start.  Feel free to drink a bottle of water after your run, but not before or during.  Also, stay away from Gatorade and the like.  They don't supply you with what your body actually does need (if they did, they'd be so disgustingly salty you'd never get them down).  Just eat a reasonable diet and call it good.

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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2016, 05:43:04 AM »
If you can run a 5k it's not that big of a stretch to do a 10k. Just try to add a little distance to your training runs each week. If you're regularly running 3 miles, up it to 3.5, then 3.75, etc. Whatever works for you.

Half marathon, I can't help with. I'm 53, been running for 30+ years, and the farthest I've ever gone is 8 miles. I run almost every day and love it, I just never had the desire for a really long run like a half or full marathon.

And +1 to Miles' thoughts on hydration. I never carry water with me. Drink up a little while before you run, and have as much as you feel you need when you get done.  :bigok:
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2016, 06:37:06 AM »
These guys are missing the 55 year old part.

Here's my training tip:  There is only one number that really matters:  How many days have I been injury free.

At 55, you don't heal quickly.  Hamstring injury can take 6 months or more to heal adequately.  Mile times, weekly distance totals and race lengths will come, but only if you can go months (to years) without injurying yourself.  Change shoes frequently, it's cheap insurance.  Stay with a brand that fits your feet well.

From a 54 year old guy who's run several marathons, a ton of 1/2's, and a 22:30 5K at 53.

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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 09:03:05 AM »
Thanks for the tips! I don't carry water, and I have two pairs of shoes I trade off between. So far, so good.
Interesting about the 60% number, I have been thinking I should be able to do the distance I am aiming for a couple of times before I do an event.
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 09:26:39 AM »
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2016, 09:40:34 AM »
It wears your knees out.
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2016, 09:55:53 AM »
So I have started running, and have done a 5k with 9:52 a mile and run 4 miles at 10:48 a mile. So who here is a runner and what advice can you give a 55 year old guy who wants to do a 10k or maybe even a half marathon?

Humans are predators, and are better at sprinting. Long distance running is horrible for you in the long run (no pun intended).
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2016, 10:34:17 AM »
So I have started running, and have done a 5k with 9:52 a mile and run 4 miles at 10:48 a mile. So who here is a runner and what advice can you give a 55 year old guy who wants to do a 10k or maybe even a half marathon?

Humans are predators, and are better at sprinting. Long distance running is horrible for you in the long run (no pun intended).

It wears your knees out.

So, I'm gonna disagree a bit with both of these.

Humans didn't predate by outracing prey.  They had a few methods including herding prey into traps of various sorts or basically pursuing until prey exhaustion (groups of humans jogging along until the prey could be caught--sort of how wild dogs hunt).   At 55, sprinting will break you down much faster than long distance running.

Knees are not the most common problem for runners.  Feet, ankles, hips and backs are more commonly affected with arthritis secondary to running.  Most knee problems aren't inside the knee but are actually tendons/ligaments around the knee (ileotibial band is pretty common)

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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 10:35:10 AM »
I don't how much of a long run I have left, so I am trying stretch that out a little. Lesser of two evils? Perhaps this is what I have been saving my knees for...
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2016, 10:44:59 AM »
I don't how much of a long run I have left, so I am trying stretch that out a little. Lesser of two evils? Perhaps this is what I have been saving my knees for...

If you're getting concussive injuries, stay off concrete surfaces as much as possible.  Run on the asphalt street instead of on the concrete sidewalks.  Concrete is brutally hard on bones and joints. 

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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2016, 01:33:11 PM »
It wears your "Feet, ankles, hips and backs" out.
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2016, 01:38:02 PM »
No injuries anywhere. Just a little muscle soreness but that goes away quickly. I'm kind of happily surprised, but careful/cautious anyway.
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Re: Talk to me about running
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2016, 07:16:40 AM »
So, I'm gonna disagree a bit with both of these.

Humans didn't predate by outracing prey.  They had a few methods including herding prey into traps of various sorts or basically pursuing until prey exhaustion (groups of humans jogging along until the prey could be caught--sort of how wild dogs hunt).   At 55, sprinting will break you down much faster than long distance running.

Knees are not the most common problem for runners.  Feet, ankles, hips and backs are more commonly affected with arthritis secondary to running.  Most knee problems aren't inside the knee but are actually tendons/ligaments around the knee (ileotibial band is pretty common)

Listen, you. You go right on ahead and keep your facts out of my self-absorbed whining about my broken down old body, you hear me??? :)
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