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Re: Brexit
« Reply #350 on: September 10, 2019, 04:03:32 AM »
The way this is being handled makes me think of a lawyer trying to drag out negotiations long enough for the statute of limitations to lapse so the other side loses by default.  The EU is just dragging its feet hoping the politics in England will change and people no longer want to go through with it.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #351 on: September 10, 2019, 04:06:25 AM »
Meh.  Mark my words- it's like with US politics.  Lots of people screaming that the sky is falling.  In reality it's just going happen.  There will be some bumps, but no one's going to war and it will be OK.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #352 on: September 10, 2019, 12:25:44 PM »
The EU is just dragging its feet hoping the politics in England will change and people no longer want to go through with it.

The EU is dragging its feet? Surely that is a typo....  :shrug:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #353 on: September 10, 2019, 02:09:00 PM »
The EU is just dragging its feet hoping the politics in England will change and people no longer want to go through with it.

The EU is dragging its feet? Surely that is a typo....  :shrug:

The EU is behaving just fine. WE are not.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #354 on: September 10, 2019, 02:40:23 PM »
Given France's and Germany's stance on Internet and publishing, the best thing ANYONE can do is run from the EU's governing bodies.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #355 on: September 10, 2019, 07:24:51 PM »
Leaving the EU appears to be doing a world of good for the British economy.  Why, it’s creating market shortages that are sure to spur retail growth.  [Sorry Papa, it’s that subtle touch of cynacism that people hate.]  Why just today, “…BlackRock advises investors to pounce on Brexit selloffs”.

Quote from:  Steve Goldstein, Published: Sept 10, 2019 8:04 a.m. ET
BlackRock Investment Institute said ... “Against this backdrop, we do not see the Bank of England raising rates as it has guided. This underpins our positive view on U.K. gilts. We hold a neutral view on U.K. equities but see opportunities if Brexit-related fears lead to indiscriminate selloffs, particularly in U.K. companies that derive most of their earnings from global markets,” the fund manager said.

But the economic news in the U.K. was rosy, as the U.K. unemployment rate in July fell to a lower-than-forecast 3.8% while average weekly earnings grew a faster-than-forecast 4%.

I agree Brexit is going to happen and the sky won’t fall, although it’s sure to weaken the British economy for years to come.  I wish I could find that 4-point plan by May’s economic advisor about re-making the British economy the strongest in the world.   Yes, she actually had a tenable written plan for acomplishment.

But you have to wonder about what’s happening in Parliament. 

MPs attempted to prevent House of Commons Speaker John Bercow from suspending Pariament for a 5-week recess today by symbolically pinning him to his chair. 

Can't those MPs play nice in the sandbox?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #356 on: September 11, 2019, 08:35:50 PM »
Operation Yellowhammer worst case planning assumptions were released to the public today.  Makes for an interesting read.   

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #357 on: September 13, 2019, 11:31:00 PM »
...just saw this pop up and thought folks here might (or not) appreciate this short Brexit vid:

The Beatles' Ringo Starr: Brexit Is Good for Britain

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #358 on: September 14, 2019, 01:30:15 AM »
...just saw this pop up and thought folks here might (or not) appreciate this short Brexit vid:

The Beatles' Ringo Starr: Brexit Is Good for Britain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XE1SYsDoFM

The Beatles' Ringo Starr: Brexit Is Good for Britain


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #359 on: September 14, 2019, 08:17:06 AM »
Let’s take advice from actors and musicians because they are obviously experts!
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #360 on: September 14, 2019, 08:36:49 AM »
That video is simply amazing.

That information is so revealing.

We thought Ringo was dead.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #361 on: September 25, 2019, 08:18:08 PM »
Read an interesting piece today about Hornby Railways, the British model train maker.

The company reportedly said, “We regret not producing a Brexit themed model.”  “If the situation persists, we have plans for a locomotive that reliably gets stuck between stations,”

Made me smile, they're taking it well.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #362 on: October 22, 2019, 03:53:37 PM »
Shamelessly stolen for here.
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« Reply #363 on: October 23, 2019, 01:43:38 PM »
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« Reply #365 on: October 29, 2019, 07:44:13 AM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #366 on: October 29, 2019, 12:08:40 PM »
just not long enough-needs to be the end of May 2020 to be useful
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #367 on: October 30, 2019, 02:26:26 AM »
2015: General Election
2017: General Election
2019: General Election

Can we have another referendum?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #368 on: October 30, 2019, 08:14:19 AM »
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« Reply #369 on: October 30, 2019, 11:39:11 AM »
2015: General Election
2017: General Election
2019: General Election

Can we have another referendum?

“No! We must respect the will of the people in 2016!”

I'm no expert in British politics, but a referendum passes, shouldn't it be carried out?  I mean, the majority (who voted, which is how these things work) wanted Brexit.  Wtf is with the "Do over" movement?  What is this, a best of 5 series?

As for General elections, from what I've read, this is a political maneuver to press one's political advantage, is that not correct? 
One final thing:  Is a vote for Jeremy Corbyn the same as a vote for anti-semitic intolerance?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #370 on: October 30, 2019, 01:26:18 PM »
2015: General Election
2017: General Election
2019: General Election

Can we have another referendum?

“No! We must respect the will of the people in 2016!”

I'm no expert in British politics, but a referendum passes, shouldn't it be carried out?  I mean, the majority (who voted, which is how these things work) wanted Brexit.  Wtf is with the "Do over" movement?  What is this, a best of 5 series?

As for General elections, from what I've read, this is a political maneuver to press one's political advantage, is that not correct? 
One final thing:  Is a vote for Jeremy Corbyn the same as a vote for anti-semitic intolerance?

I also hesitate to speak to another nation's politics.  But my understanding is that the actual terms of Brexit and its effects were unknown at the time of the Brexit vote.  So it may be wise to have a vote now that the terms and their effects are known.  Also, Papa can correct me if I'm wrong, but I also thought that the Brexit vote was more of an opinion poll and not a conclusory vote such as an initiated measure or a constitutional amendment are in U.S. state governmental elections.

I've been surprised that Corbyn hasn't been replaced as his party's leader based on the anti-Semitism.  But just look at some of the evil things U.S. politicians say.  For example, a U.S. Representative commented very recently that many of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for rape and incest.  I used to live in this creep's state, and I can't believe that he wasn't forced to resign by the good people who live there.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #371 on: November 01, 2019, 02:05:55 AM »
All public referendums (referenda?) are advisory, not binding on the government of the day.

The 2016 referendum was the second in/out referendum. The first one said "in".

Nobody knew the effects of Brexit at the time of the 2016 referendum and the leave voters were lied to and promised things that could not happen. Nonetheless, many leave voters would still vote leave, even though it risks breaking up the Union, for sovereignty. Whatever that is these days.

I am no Corbyn fan because of anti-Semitism in the Labour party and his seeming inability to manage his party or come out on one side or the other, because he is trying to please both leavers and remainers and he is anti-EU himself. Being a half decent manager is key to being a half decent Prime Minister. Johnson is a lying little toad. We have crap politicians at present.

Calling a General Election means that the single issue of Brexit will become muddled up with all the other reasons people vote for a party, such as loyalty, policies, etc. We need a third referendum.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #372 on: November 20, 2019, 08:00:54 PM »
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« Reply #373 on: November 21, 2019, 04:01:36 AM »
For example, a U.S. Representative commented very recently that many of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for rape and incest.  I used to live in this creep's state, and I can't believe that he wasn't forced to resign by the good people who live there.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #374 on: November 25, 2019, 08:05:57 PM »
As if Brexit wasn’t bad enough…

Uber is losing its license to operate in London after the Transport for London regulator discovered more than 14,000 journeys had been made by uninsured drivers. 

Hail the black cabs.
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« Reply #375 on: November 29, 2019, 09:51:10 PM »
“He was sacked twice for lying. So when he says he has never lied, he’s literally lying,' says Jo Swinson, as Boris Johnson insists he's never told a single lie in his whole political career.”
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #376 on: December 08, 2019, 03:01:40 PM »
So if Britain does a Brexit will London do a Lexit? Wales a Wexit? Scotland a Sexit?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #377 on: December 08, 2019, 03:03:31 PM »
And will anything matter after China does a Chexit and they throw everybody out?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #378 on: December 08, 2019, 03:04:23 PM »
I'm looking forward to Scotland saying  :blbl:  to the UK and staying in the EU  :inlove:
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« Reply #379 on: December 08, 2019, 03:13:53 PM »
I'm looking forward to Scotland saying  :blbl:  to the UK and staying in the EU  :inlove:

It's the end of the UK if we leave the EU. The idjuts just can't see it.
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« Reply #380 on: December 08, 2019, 04:19:20 PM »
It's the end of the UK if we leave the EU. The idjuts just can't see it.
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« Reply #381 on: December 09, 2019, 08:09:36 AM »
So, fill me in. What are the advantages of staying in the EU where the "donor" countries are expected to pick up the slack for "taker" countries instead of letting their financial policies have the repercussions of poor choices? Seems like a recipe for tax increases.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #382 on: December 09, 2019, 11:25:28 AM »
We have jeniuses here who want to split from Canada. Go figure out how that will work out to an advantage in negotiations with Beijing and Washington and South Korea and France and and and...
Trade is just a semi-polite form of warfare. Negotiations always contain an imbalance that is reflected in the deal. Ask your small town hardware store how they do when Home Depot comes around... local shops when Costco arrives...
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« Reply #383 on: December 09, 2019, 06:44:57 PM »
So, fill me in. What are the advantages of staying in the EU where the "donor" countries are expected to pick up the slack for "taker" countries instead of letting their financial policies have the repercussions of poor choices? Seems like a recipe for tax increases.

One place to look is what the framers of our Constitution wrote about direct and indirect taxation.  I believe there is analogous reasoning that can be applied equally well to the current situation with the EU.  It's not a black and white zero sum game outcome.  There is a downside to the upside, but there is an overall benefit to societies that work together constructively.  The USA is proof of that.

On the flip side, Brexit et al is so much more entertaining than Days of Our Lives. 
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #384 on: December 10, 2019, 07:42:27 AM »
So, fill me in. What are the advantages of staying in the EU where the "donor" countries are expected to pick up the slack for "taker" countries instead of letting their financial policies have the repercussions of poor choices? Seems like a recipe for tax increases.

One place to look is what the framers of our Constitution wrote about direct and indirect taxation.  I believe there is analogous reasoning that can be applied equally well to the current situation with the EU.  It's not a black and white zero sum game outcome.  There is a downside to the upside, but there is an overall benefit to societies that work together constructively.  The USA is proof of that.

On the flip side, Brexit et al is so much more entertaining than Days of Our Lives.

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« Reply #385 on: December 10, 2019, 08:18:21 AM »
That was my thinking

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #386 on: December 10, 2019, 05:22:46 PM »
Sources of income ≠ Debt service as a percentage of income

Just spent a couple of weeks in Greece. 

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #387 on: December 11, 2019, 03:32:04 AM »
So, fill me in. What are the advantages of staying in the EU where the "donor" countries are expected to pick up the slack for "taker" countries instead of letting their financial policies have the repercussions of poor choices? Seems like a recipe for tax increases.

I think that’s a key reason for this nonsense.  Nobody wants to bail out people who are leeches.  The EU is choosing to do so and foot the working people with the bill.  Choices like that make some feel like the “representative government” does not represent them.
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« Reply #388 on: December 11, 2019, 03:36:47 AM »
As if Brexit wasn’t bad enough…

Uber is losing its license to operate in London after the Transport for London regulator discovered more than 14,000 journeys had been made by uninsured drivers. 

Hail the black cabs.

That’s starting to happen here.  Read your insurance policy.  They’ve barred coverage for personal vehicles used as cabs or other “for hire” transports.  When I had vehicles registered to a business, I had to make sure I was covered without needing a special rider or policy.  Since I didn’t use them as a cab or other hired transport, my private insurance covered me.

Uber and Lyft has been using people who are essentially uninsured for years as their insurance would not cover them in an incident where they are hired out to drive people places.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #389 on: December 11, 2019, 08:31:57 PM »
It's Election Day
In The UK
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #390 on: December 12, 2019, 12:13:05 PM »
It's Election Day
In The UK
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #391 on: December 12, 2019, 12:28:14 PM »
Wow, polls don't close until 10:00 pm there.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #392 on: December 12, 2019, 05:12:11 PM »
And exit polls are restricted to restrict the media’s influence on the results to a fellow named Ivan on Twitter.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #393 on: December 12, 2019, 05:47:25 PM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #394 on: December 13, 2019, 01:47:35 AM »
we're fucked.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #395 on: December 13, 2019, 05:46:55 AM »
Happy now?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #396 on: December 13, 2019, 10:48:23 AM »
utterly miserable thanks.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #397 on: December 13, 2019, 03:26:22 PM »
we're fucked.


Forgive me, but I don't think so. What I see admittedly through rose coloured glasses is a situation similar to what we have here in Washington State; ie a very liberal and progressive London which embraces internationalism and the EU, vs the rest of the country that see's it as a none starter that's gone too far. The fact that Boris won with a considerable margin and the Tories picked up over 40 seats in parliament bears that out. Wailing, gnashing teeth and pointing at racist little Englanders doesn't change that.

As a comparison here, Seattle and King County are a liberal blob in an otherwise conservative state, however because of population densities they usually drive the agenda and go so far as to file lawsuits if the vote goes against them. You can extrapolate that to the entire country with Trump winning the Presidency by electoral votes over a majority popular vote going against him and the democrats engaging in one pathetic witch hunt after another trying to unseat him.

Tough shit for the party that lost in both cases, but if you're going to have a vote then you have to except the possibility that it'll go against your wishes and make whatever the outcome is work.
 
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #398 on: December 13, 2019, 04:58:14 PM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #399 on: December 13, 2019, 05:07:02 PM »
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