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Re: Brexit
« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2016, 12:05:01 PM »
I'm a bit late to this thread. I had to make a trip by road (not on the bike, unfortunately) to Lithuania the day after the result was announced. I had gone to bed confident that the Remain camp would win, so I was shocked to hear that the Leavers had won. I wouldn't say they won the argument because they didn't put forward any coherent argument, just a lot of rhetoric and slogans about sovereignty and immigration. A major problem is that the arguments for and against membership are far too complicated for the average person to understand, so they voted out of fear and emotions whipped up by some sections of the press and politicians who thought they could benefit from leaving the EU. I was and still am of the opinion that it would be much better to stay in and use the support of other member states which also have populations who feel that the EU isn't acting in their best interests (e.g. France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Poland) to put pressure on the Commission to change its ways and become less autocratic.

What many don't seem to realise is that without the EU employment regulations, the employers will have a much freer hand to reduce pay and holidays, increase working hours and generally do whatever they want to reduce costs to compete with China.

On my trip through Germany and Poland to Lithuania people seemed genuinely sad about the Leave vote, and I don't think it was just because they want our money, as some had suggested. Our group felt that we had to try to explain to anyone who would listen that the decision wasn't what we wanted. It has been said many times that the referendum isn't binding, but I think the more vocal Leavers would do their best to stir up as much trouble as they could if we stay in. My hope now is that the government can do some sort of deal which ensures that we retain as many of the benefits of membership as possible. Alternatively, the EU as we know it may fall apart and be replaced in due course by a new alliance without the political aspirations of the EU and without the ridiculous level of bureaucracy and waste that I have always disliked.

It was a big mistake to go ahead with the referendum  without the necessity for a convincing majority vote. A 52/48 vote isn't enough to take such a huge step, a 60% or even 65% majority should have been required because it is a much bigger decision than simply changing government.

One thing that nobody seems to be talking about is what might happen if Trump becomes the US president. He is on record as saying that he can't see why America is in NATO and Europe should look after itself. If the EU is in crisis and he pulls America out of NATO, who thinks that Putin (who has spoken admiringly about Trump) could resist the temptation to finish what he started in Ukraine, and even reclaim much of the former USSR territories lost when Communism collapsed? His pretext could be the same as he has used previously, the 'defence of Russian minorities'. Where would he stop?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #101 on: August 04, 2016, 01:20:41 PM »
All very true.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #102 on: August 04, 2016, 01:32:38 PM »
The media whips up fear and anxiety to boost their ad revenue.  Dial up your cynicism of the press.

This shouldn't come as a surprise.  That being said, there is still a lot of unknowns coming down the road...

Known unknowns or unknown unknowns?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2016, 02:31:37 PM »
Thank you for the interesting perspectives Barnaby.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2016, 02:32:43 PM »
My father used to say "expect the unexpected". Um, yeah. Ok.  :redface:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #105 on: August 04, 2016, 02:36:36 PM »
One thing that nobody seems to be talking about is what might happen if Trump becomes the US president. He is on record as saying that he can't see why America is in NATO and Europe should look after itself.

My thoughts are that if Trump get into the Whitehouse that the rest of the world should take a deep breath and hold it for the next four years. Trump pulls out of NATO, tries to build a wall, whatever. Four years later he's out of office and the US can step up and say something like " Um, guys? Can we just reset the server back to the way it was four years ago? We're really sorry about that  :redface: :redface:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2016, 11:20:57 AM »
Pound rebounds and UK manufacturing is on an upswing:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37242804

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #107 on: September 01, 2016, 11:23:46 AM »
...and this is perhaps an indication of the sorts of shenanigans of the EU, which led to Brexit.

Tim Cook says EU's ruling is maddening.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #108 on: September 01, 2016, 11:50:49 AM »
...and this is perhaps an indication of the sorts of shenanigans of the EU, which led to Brexit.

Tim Cook says EU's ruling is maddening.


Thank the Lord someone is taking on the global corporates, who don't pay their taxes. But I suspect the EU's move will be found to be illegal.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2016, 11:57:16 AM »
...and this is perhaps an indication of the sorts of shenanigans of the EU, which led to Brexit.

Tim Cook says EU's ruling is maddening.


Thank the Lord someone is taking on the global corporates, who don't pay their taxes. But I suspect the EU's move will be found to be illegal.


Hmm...

Tim Cook says they pay 26.5% taxes worldwide.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2016, 12:30:39 PM »
...and this is perhaps an indication of the sorts of shenanigans of the EU, which led to Brexit.

Tim Cook says EU's ruling is maddening.


Thank the Lord someone is taking on the global corporates, who don't pay their taxes. But I suspect the EU's move will be found to be illegal.


Hmm...

Tim Cook says they pay 26.5% taxes worldwide.


So he did. Unbelieving face.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2016, 02:11:29 AM »
‘No Major Effect’ From Brexit So Far
THE Office for National Statistics (ONS) says its findings that Brexit has so far had little effect on the UK economy are most likely down to the fact that we haven’t had Brexit yet. “Amazingly, the economy is continuing as if we are still at present a member of the European Union and able to trade tariff-free across the 27 member states,”said an ONS spokesman.

“This is because until Theresa May invokes Article 50, we are still at present a member of the European Union and able to trade tariff-free across member states.
“To put it in more technical terms, the shit hasn’t fan yet, as Theresa May delay turning the fan on long as possible.”
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #112 on: October 07, 2016, 03:44:59 AM »
Yes, but there appeared to be some relief when she actually chose the timeline for Article 50 (late March). Someone joked that she would do it on April 1st... jokes on you!

Anyway, I'm off to buy some pounds... I hear that the UK might rename their monetary unit as the stone, since it is sinking so fast. Ba-da-DUM! :)
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2016, 11:34:39 AM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2016, 12:43:51 PM »
I read that this morning and .... well, I can't even describe my reaction. I guess "WTF?" comes closest to it.  :nuts:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #115 on: November 03, 2016, 01:07:22 PM »
Hasn't blocked it, the court has said it must go before parliament first.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2016, 02:55:19 PM »
The people voted...

just kidding. 
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2016, 03:37:10 PM »
The people voted...

just kidding.

Apparently, this doesn't mean anything.


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #118 on: November 03, 2016, 03:47:29 PM »
The people voted...

just kidding.

Apparently, this doesn't mean anything.


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #119 on: November 03, 2016, 06:13:39 PM »
Make Britain Great Again!!    :gerg:






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Re: Brexit
« Reply #120 on: November 03, 2016, 06:16:17 PM »
Make Britain Great Again!!    :gerg:






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Re: Brexit
« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2016, 06:21:09 PM »
Make Britain Great Again!!    :gerg:


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2016, 09:51:17 PM »
Make Britain Great Again!!    :gerg:


 :couch:

They need a wall- and MAKE THE ROMANS PAY FOR IT!

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #123 on: November 04, 2016, 12:13:16 AM »
Make Britain Great Again!!    :gerg:


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They need a wall- and MAKE THE ROMANS PAY FOR IT!

Name it for someone famous.  Hadrian?


Hey, don't knock it.  I mean, look how well it worked.  They built that thing 2,000 years ago and still have almost zero illegal Mexican immigrants...
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #124 on: November 04, 2016, 03:06:31 AM »
True dat.

and this Brexit was ALL about immigration. Eastern European, Middle Eastern and African. Now the leavers want the Eastern Europeans to stay... I wish they'd make their minds up.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #125 on: November 04, 2016, 05:56:19 AM »
I'm seeing TV ads here for super-low mortgage rates due to the Brexit. How does that work?  :o :headscratch: You guys financing us? :shrug:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2016, 08:56:43 AM »
I'm seeing TV ads here for super-low mortgage rates due to the Brexit. How does that work?  :o :headscratch: You guys financing us? :shrug:

*part* of the reason market rates are low in several countries has to do with Brexit.  It's not the sole reason, it's only part.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #127 on: November 09, 2016, 02:49:03 AM »
I only told you to blow the bleeding doors off. Now you lot have gone and done it, much worse than we did.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #128 on: November 09, 2016, 05:04:49 AM »
US to U.K: hold my beer......
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #129 on: November 09, 2016, 07:34:48 AM »
 :lol:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #130 on: November 09, 2016, 08:57:12 AM »
US to U.K: hold my beer......

I'm using this.  8)

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« Reply #131 on: November 09, 2016, 10:22:07 AM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #132 on: November 09, 2016, 02:17:08 PM »
A lurch to right is understandable in such uncertain times. Although immensely stupid.

A resurgent Russia, an aggressive China, Daesh, refugees, immigration, even Brexit-the list is endless.

The common response has always to look for a right wing saviour.

And you know what happens to saviours?

They get crucified.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2016, 02:57:56 PM »
More of the same (bwahahaha - foreign policy you speak of) but add in corruption / pay-to-play on top? Not something I'd want - not wanting that entity selecting Supreme Court Justices.

I'll stand in the cautiously optimistic crowd.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #134 on: November 09, 2016, 03:28:57 PM »
Meh- we'll come together and figure it out.
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« Reply #135 on: November 09, 2016, 03:56:42 PM »
Pssht. You got what you wished for. So did we.
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« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2016, 05:25:14 PM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #137 on: November 10, 2016, 05:47:33 PM »
Meh- we'll come together and figure it out.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #138 on: November 10, 2016, 05:49:33 PM »
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« Reply #139 on: November 10, 2016, 06:20:50 PM »
Meh- we'll come together and figure it out.

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« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2017, 10:28:28 AM »
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« Reply #143 on: January 16, 2017, 10:59:02 AM »
Don't believe a word of it. Just because the EU is looking less rosy without GB, doesn't mean we are out of the shite. And we haven't even left yet.
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« Reply #144 on: February 01, 2017, 02:32:07 PM »
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #145 on: February 17, 2017, 10:12:48 AM »
What's happening Papa? - I believe Tony was always opposed - Is Britain having a change of mind? 

I thought the vote was incontrovertible. 

Then this pooped up on my news feed today.  [Ed. note: Freudian slip]

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Blair calls for fight against Brexit

The country is rushing "over the cliff's edge," Tony Blair warned in a rallying cry to opponents of Brexit, urging them to fight Theresa May's plans to take Britain out of the EU. "I agree the will of the people should prevail... But as these terms become clear, it is their right to change their mind," the former prime minister said. "The road we're going down is not simply hard Brexit. It is Brexit at any cost."

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« Reply #146 on: February 17, 2017, 02:16:06 PM »
We're still fecked. As are you. The weird right is in ascendancy.
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« Reply #147 on: February 17, 2017, 02:18:44 PM »
We're still fecked. As are you. The weird right is in ascendancy.

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« Reply #148 on: February 17, 2017, 02:19:54 PM »
We're still fecked. As are you. The weird right is in ascendancy.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #149 on: February 17, 2017, 02:21:01 PM »
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