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It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« on: December 09, 2013, 05:26:55 PM »
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 RUTLAND — A woman found dead Friday inside a burning house at 2 Joanna Drive has been identified by the district attorney's office as 53-year-old Diane Lamarche-Leader, the woman who lived at that home, and her death has been ruled a homicide.

http://www.necn.com/12/08/13/Body-identified-vehicle-found-in-Rutland/landing.html?blockID=859403&feedID=4753

http://www.telegram.com/article/20131208/NEWS/312089758/1116

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2013/12/man_held_on_25000_cash_bail_in.html

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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 05:28:32 PM »
Did you do it?
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 05:33:51 PM »
Did you do it?

Nope. I was at work. A coworker who is also an area firefighter came up to me and asked what street I lived on in case it was my street or house. They didn't announce the discovery of the woman's body till later that day.
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 05:37:36 PM »
Nice Incident Command truck.  With the taxes you guys pay in Assachusetts, I'm surprised they didn't land a helicopter or two.
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 05:42:39 PM »
So the crazy homeless man did it?
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 05:45:45 PM »
So the crazy homeless man did it?

So far he only stole a car.
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 05:55:57 PM »
So the crazy homeless man did it?

So far he only stole a car.

We had a run in with a crazy homeless dude in front of Albertsons the other night. I thought we might make the news.  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 05:59:07 PM »
So the crazy homeless man did it?


So far he only stole a car.


We had a run in with a crazy homeless dude in front of Albertsons the other night. I thought we might make the news.  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:




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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 06:15:04 PM »

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A little more scruffy.  8)
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 06:57:17 PM »

A little more scruffy.  8)


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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 07:04:54 PM »
So the crazy homeless man did it?

So far he only stole a car.

Was it a prius and is his name Scott?
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 04:42:48 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 11:41:12 AM »
Lengthy criminal record and substance abuse, IE repeat offender.  :mad:
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 12:50:24 PM »
At risk of seeming hard hearted...

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...Mr. Roman has a history of violence and substance abuse problems. He had been staying with the homicide victim, Diane Lamarche-Leader, 53, at the Joanna Drive home, Mr. Travers said, adding that Ms. Lamarche-Leader was a nurse who "provided assistance to people who had substance abuse problems."

I find it difficult to be a helping hand to people sometimes for this exact reason. Because news reports frequently say (paraphrasing of course) "Good Samaritan attempts to help fucked up people get their lives together and has own life ruined or ended. Video of the horrific crime scene at 11".  Over and over, I see that folks who try to help animals get bitten. Not necessarily to this extent, but there sure seems to be a bundle of people willing to take advantage of any hand up to screw those who have tried to help.

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2013, 01:12:27 PM »
At risk of seeming hard hearted...

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...Mr. Roman has a history of violence and substance abuse problems. He had been staying with the homicide victim, Diane Lamarche-Leader, 53, at the Joanna Drive home, Mr. Travers said, adding that Ms. Lamarche-Leader was a nurse who "provided assistance to people who had substance abuse problems."

I find it difficult to be a helping hand to people sometimes for this exact reason. Because news reports frequently say (paraphrasing of course) "Good Samaritan attempts to help fucked up people get their lives together and has own life ruined or ended. Video of the horrific crime scene at 11".  Over and over, I see that folks who try to help animals get bitten. Not necessarily to this extent, but there sure seems to be a bundle of people willing to take advantage of any hand up to screw those who have tried to help.

LT

I wanted to go there to but didn't want to sound like being a heartless bastard.

Like LT said i hear this same thing all to many times.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2013, 01:27:47 PM »
"Good Samaritan attempts to help fucked up people get their lives together and has own life ruined or ended. Video of the horrific crime scene at 11".


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Re: It's been a BIG news weekend in my neighborhood.
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2013, 01:51:22 PM »
My Dad was a baker.  He came from the streets of Seattle as the son of an illegal immigrant.  He felt like he should pay back to society that allowed him to build a small business so he enrolled in a state program (in the late 60's and early 70's) that was intended to help the down and out learn a trade and move up economically.  He would take on a baker's apprentice, and work towards teaching them how to be a baker.  For the first several months, things were fine.

Once the wolf wasn't scratching at their door, all of a sudden, they'd start calling in sick.   After a few weeks of this, they'd disappear for a week at a time.  It was inevitable that they'd quit a short time later.

I watched it over and over again

Flash forward:  There was a formerly board certified pathologist working as a bus boy at a local restaurant.  Some in my group thought that all he needed was a helping hand, so he was brought on as a pathologist's assistant.  It lasted a couple months.

IN GENERAL, when people fall that far down the economic ladder, there is some underlying pathology that led to it.  It ain't just bad luck.

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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 01:59:47 PM »
At risk of seeming hard hearted...

Quote
...Mr. Roman has a history of violence and substance abuse problems. He had been staying with the homicide victim, Diane Lamarche-Leader, 53, at the Joanna Drive home, Mr. Travers said, adding that Ms. Lamarche-Leader was a nurse who "provided assistance to people who had substance abuse problems."

I find it difficult to be a helping hand to people sometimes for this exact reason. Because news reports frequently say (paraphrasing of course) "Good Samaritan attempts to help fucked up people get their lives together and has own life ruined or ended. Video of the horrific crime scene at 11".  Over and over, I see that folks who try to help animals get bitten. Not necessarily to this extent, but there sure seems to be a bundle of people willing to take advantage of any hand up to screw those who have tried to help.

LT

I wanted to go there to but didn't want to sound like being a heartless bastard.

Like LT said i hear this same thing all to many times.

I am cold hearted so I'm ok with it.  While most people have some good in them, there are some that just can't be saved.  Just like animals, some need to be put down if they get to far gone.  Just the other week I had a 7 year old tell his teacher he was going to rape her and slice her throat.  We can't arrest anyone under 10 in Pennsylvania.  Even for murder.  Granted he probably learned this at what ever passes for "home", but unless someone does something this kid will never contribute to society. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2013, 02:04:53 PM »
IN GENERAL, when people fall that far down the economic ladder, there is some underlying pathology that led to it.  It ain't just bad luck.

There is some truth to that.  I used to volunteer time with a homeless outreach program.  There were some who clearly had a run of bad luck and needed a net to catch them and a give them a lift to get going again. 

But, a lot of those folks seemed to have experienced something which changed them mentally and didn’t really wanted help, they had given up on life.  I found that the more time you could spend time with them and show them you cared about them, they would start showing signs of recovery. 

The big problem comes when they’re away from that support system for a certain duration of time.  They’d fall back into whatever rut (i.e. vice). 

As a human, my heart says that you’re not going to help anyone if you don’t try.  But golly gee almighty, it’s tough!  It takes patience.  It also takes leadership and holding people accountable and responsible.  As noted, it’s a lot like a wounded animal.  It’s in their nature to bite you.
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 02:28:34 PM »
IN GENERAL, when people fall that far down the economic ladder, there is some underlying pathology that led to it.  It ain't just bad luck.

There is some truth to that.  I used to volunteer time with a homeless outreach program.  There were some who clearly had a run of bad luck and needed a net to catch them and a give them a lift to get going again. 

But, a lot of those folks seemed to have experienced something which changed them mentally and didn’t really wanted help, they had given up on life.  I found that the more time you could spend time with them and show them you cared about them, they would start showing signs of recovery. 

The big problem comes when they’re away from that support system for a certain duration of time.  They’d fall back into whatever rut (i.e. vice). 

As a human, my heart says that you’re not going to help anyone if you don’t try.  But golly gee almighty, it’s tough!  It takes patience.  It also takes leadership and holding people accountable and responsible.  As noted, it’s a lot like a wounded animal.  It’s in their nature to bite you.

You can give all the support to that person that you can but in the end the only one that can turn his life around is himself.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 02:29:27 PM »
I'm somewhat of a sucker for panhandlers, specially in larger cities. If they seem polite and appear to "just need a little help" I will talk to them for a while. almost every time they are where they are because that is where they want to be.. can't help people like that..
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