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Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:10:21 AM »
Return of an icon! Maybe even to the US?

http://www.motorcyclemojo.com/2015/05/2016-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-announced/

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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 11:41:16 AM »
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 11:59:57 AM »
Per these articles, the Africa Twin will be in the US early next year.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/2015/honda-africa-twin.htm
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/05/12/2016-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-confirmed-for-america/

I hope they don't only pair the ABS option with the DCT option, like they did with the NCX. 

I'm very interested, but I wonder if the ride experience of the big parallel twin will be very similar to the Super Tenere - ie, lumpy?


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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 12:02:02 PM »


I hope they don't only pair the ABS option with the DCT option, like they did with the NCX. 



That is where my "may" came from in the title. I sure hope they make it available separate.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 01:00:38 PM »
I like the look from the front. I hope it slots in as somewhat more dirt-worthy than the 1190 Adventure R. Kind of like a Tiger 800 XC on steroids but even lighter. Not that I'm changing bikes any time soon, but I don't think the world needs another road-biased "travel enduro".
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 01:19:53 PM »
I think it is pretty hard to get more dirt worthy than the 1190R in that displacement range. I may be biased, but even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine.

I expect it to be Honda's version of the Tennerre, but we can always hope! What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2015, 02:02:50 PM »
Ya know, I think one in the 750-800cc with a shaft drive would be a nice little market niche. Something with 25,000 mile valve adjusts, minimum.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 03:01:39 PM »
I hope this will be the one for Honda, but I just can't get my hopes up....

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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 04:33:43 PM »
What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

Basically I would hope for it to be a Super Enduro with a 20L fuel tank. The world needs one of those again.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 04:47:12 PM »
What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

Basically I would hope for it to be a Super Enduro with a 20L fuel tank. The world needs one of those again.

I agree, I just don't think it's possible with the 1190 engine? More HP  always means more weight, I think someone needs to go back to a 750 or so?

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 06:49:12 PM »
...even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine...

I completely agree. Although I'd reduce that to 600cc.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 06:18:46 AM »
...even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine...

I completely agree. Although I'd reduce that to 600cc.

I can see where this is going. A shaft drive KLR650 with better suspenders.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 10:26:19 AM »
As long as no one comes up with the silly idea that an I4 is right for off road... oy.
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As long as no one comes up with the silly idea that an I4 is right for off road... oy.


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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 12:15:37 PM »
If Kawasaki put the 650 twin engine into an improved KLR chassis they would probably sell a bunch of them. Seems like a no-brainer to me. That twin would make eating road miles a lot nicer than the 650 thumper.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2015, 12:32:27 PM »
If Kawasaki put the 650 twin engine into an improved KLR chassis they would probably sell a bunch of them. Seems like a no-brainer to me. That twin would make eating road miles a lot nicer than the 650 thumper.

that would be pretty cool, I wonder how much heavier it would get?
I'm really hoping this Honda gets it right..

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2015, 01:38:58 PM »
If Kawasaki put the 650 twin engine into an improved KLR chassis they would probably sell a bunch of them. Seems like a no-brainer to me. That twin would make eating road miles a lot nicer than the 650 thumper.

that would be pretty cool, I wonder how much heavier it would get?
I'm really hoping this Honda gets it right..

There was a guy on ADVrider who did exactly that with a Ninja/Versys 650. He did some nice work and built three of them, and did some longer trips with them. He did have some vapor lock issues, but for the most part they worked well.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2016, 11:50:55 AM »
A African road test of the African Twin. I think "The Pace Podcast" needs to do a road test in the US.

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2016, 12:25:26 PM »
The rider in the vid - Interesting to note the name - Ari Henning. It struck a chord - I believe I met him years ago on a ride at a hostel in St. Augustine FL.

I came to the hostel (a two story house in a built-out area of the city) and was looking for where to park. I drove the bike around the place a couple times and was greeted by Ari. He heard a motorcycle driving around and came out to help / show me where I should park.  We spoke a bit and it seemed he had some connection with the motorcycle world. I appreciated the assistance & he seemed like a nice guy - seems to match the personality in the vid.

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2016, 01:08:21 PM »
Looks like a great bike.  I'm not a real fan of parallel twins, but it would be worth a ride.

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2016, 04:05:02 PM »
Ari Henning is the Road Test Editor for Motorcyclist magazine and a pretty good rider.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2016, 11:59:52 PM »
I put a $500 deposit on one today.  ;D 8)
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2016, 08:49:40 AM »
I put a $500 deposit on one today.  ;D 8)

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2016, 10:44:57 AM »
I put a $500 deposit on one today.  ;D 8)

Right  on! I'm looking forward towards a review as well.

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