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Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:10:21 AM »
Return of an icon! Maybe even to the US?

http://www.motorcyclemojo.com/2015/05/2016-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-announced/

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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 11:41:16 AM »
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 11:59:57 AM »
Per these articles, the Africa Twin will be in the US early next year.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/2015/honda-africa-twin.htm
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/05/12/2016-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-confirmed-for-america/

I hope they don't only pair the ABS option with the DCT option, like they did with the NCX. 

I'm very interested, but I wonder if the ride experience of the big parallel twin will be very similar to the Super Tenere - ie, lumpy?


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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 12:02:02 PM »


I hope they don't only pair the ABS option with the DCT option, like they did with the NCX. 



That is where my "may" came from in the title. I sure hope they make it available separate.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 01:00:38 PM »
I like the look from the front. I hope it slots in as somewhat more dirt-worthy than the 1190 Adventure R. Kind of like a Tiger 800 XC on steroids but even lighter. Not that I'm changing bikes any time soon, but I don't think the world needs another road-biased "travel enduro".
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 01:19:53 PM »
I think it is pretty hard to get more dirt worthy than the 1190R in that displacement range. I may be biased, but even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine.

I expect it to be Honda's version of the Tennerre, but we can always hope! What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2015, 02:02:50 PM »
Ya know, I think one in the 750-800cc with a shaft drive would be a nice little market niche. Something with 25,000 mile valve adjusts, minimum.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 03:01:39 PM »
I hope this will be the one for Honda, but I just can't get my hopes up....

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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 04:33:43 PM »
What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

Basically I would hope for it to be a Super Enduro with a 20L fuel tank. The world needs one of those again.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 04:47:12 PM »
What exactly is it about the 1190 that you think the Honda could to better?

Basically I would hope for it to be a Super Enduro with a 20L fuel tank. The world needs one of those again.

I agree, I just don't think it's possible with the 1190 engine? More HP  always means more weight, I think someone needs to go back to a 750 or so?

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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 06:49:12 PM »
...even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine...

I completely agree. Although I'd reduce that to 600cc.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 06:18:46 AM »
...even with suspension work the 1000cc+ bikes are just too damn heavy to work well off road. the 750cc range to me is the max for a dirt worthy machine...

I completely agree. Although I'd reduce that to 600cc.

I can see where this is going. A shaft drive KLR650 with better suspenders.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 10:26:19 AM »
As long as no one comes up with the silly idea that an I4 is right for off road... oy.
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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2015, 10:33:50 AM »
As long as no one comes up with the silly idea that an I4 is right for off road... oy.


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Re: Finally! Honda may have got one right!
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 12:15:37 PM »
If Kawasaki put the 650 twin engine into an improved KLR chassis they would probably sell a bunch of them. Seems like a no-brainer to me. That twin would make eating road miles a lot nicer than the 650 thumper.
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