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Oil fired furnace question
« on: November 15, 2013, 05:13:45 AM »
Last year, we had a new furnace and central air distribution fan installed.  The furnace has been flawless until last night.

It was on, the house was toasty and then we noticed, TOO toasty.  So I went to check the thermostat.  12 degrees above the setting.  Turning off the heat at the thermostat did nothing.  Turning on the AC part of the thermostat did nothing.  The only way to turn off the furnace was to shut off the manual switch or kick the breaker.  Anytime there's power going to the furnace, it's on, regardless of what the thermostat is set at.

Any quick fix suggestions?  It's still under warranty so we're calling the furnace guy today, but if there was a quick reset thingy, we'd try that first...

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2013, 05:19:49 AM »
I work with an HVAC guy. I'll check with him at breaktime.
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2013, 05:29:26 AM »
Also, reach out to Craig Gibson aka SwingSet at Rant-Fu podcast. I'll pm you his email infoz.
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 06:20:53 AM »
He says to locate the check valve. It's on the outflow pipe from the furnace. Its probably just stuck. Its brass or painted green. Give it light taps with a hammer to loosen it. If this works, monitor and replace if necessary. 
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 06:23:56 AM »
Could it be a bad thermostat?  If it isn't kickingbin the ac either then the problem may not be with the furnace.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2013, 07:02:44 AM »
Bad limit switch?

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2013, 07:08:17 AM »
It's all still under warranty so the HVAC guy said he'll be out today.  When I find out, I'll post up.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013, 07:13:01 AM »
Did you check to see if you have any goats or cats gumming things up? You know how they can get into everything.
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2013, 07:13:21 AM »
...and let me add,  all I know is how to set the thermostat, trip the breaker and turn the manual switch on and off. :redface:

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2013, 07:14:06 AM »
Did you check to see if you have any goats or cats gumming things up? You know how they can get into everything.

All cats are accounted for. :shrug:

Goats? We ain't got no steenkin' goats.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2013, 07:15:33 AM »
Did you check to see if you have any goats or cats gumming things up? You know how they can get into everything.


Goats? We ain't got no steenkin' goats.

That YOU know of. Those things are sneaky.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2013, 07:24:09 AM »
Did you check to see if you have any goats or cats gumming things up? You know how they can get into everything.


Goats? We ain't got no steenkin' goats.

That YOU know of. Those things are sneaky.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2013, 07:44:19 AM »
...and let me add,  all I know is how to set the thermostat, trip the breaker and turn the manual switch on and off. :redface:

The pussification of America continues.... :rolf:

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2013, 08:39:08 AM »
...and let me add,  all I know is how to set the thermostat, trip the breaker and turn the manual switch on and off. :redface:

The pussification of America continues.... :rolf:

To be fair, I wired the entire kitchen, including the island outlets.  (passed inspection too).  Just no experience with HVAC.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 08:46:13 AM »


To be fair, I wired the entire kitchen, including the island outlets.  (passed inspection too).  Just no experience with HVAC.

Inspection?!?  See previous comment.

















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At least it's warming up this weekend.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 08:53:30 AM »


To be fair, I wired the entire kitchen, including the island outlets.  (passed inspection too).  Just no experience with HVAC.

Inspection?!?  See previous comment.

















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At least it's warming up this weekend.

Had to.  It was part of the house renovation.  The builder wouldn't build with out permits.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2013, 09:02:24 AM »
Not likely the thermostat (don't ask, you can figure it out) . . . . . .much more likely the control board of the furnace itself.

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2013, 09:17:39 AM »
I'm willing to work on a number of things, but HVAC isn't one of them.  Lots of sensors, safeties etc that I don't really understand.  Some low voltage, some normal some high voltage.  Trial and error can get expensive there...

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2013, 09:26:32 AM »
- A Man's Got to Know his Limitations  . . . . . .

I can check for the presence of electricty and fuel into the magic box, but, beyond that, the pros get called.
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2013, 08:31:03 PM »
Weird.  It was (and continues) to work fine now.  He thinks maybe some bugs or something were gumming it up.  We'll see how long it lasts

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2013, 08:31:31 AM »
Im going to say thermostat. Try disconnecting the red wire from the stat. If heat shuts off when doing this, stat is the problem. If not, problem is in furnace

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2013, 08:49:21 AM »


To be fair, I wired the entire kitchen, including the island outlets.  (passed inspection too).  Just no experience with HVAC.

Inspection?!?  See previous comment.



lol... true, unfortunately doing electrical work and not having the required inspection gives your insurance company a reason not to pay if your house burns down ;)
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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2014, 02:17:48 PM »
UPDATE:

It took several move visits from the HVAC guy, but he finally was there when it did it.  Turns out it was a sticky relay.  He had to replace the entire control board-thingy to fix it.  He said he hadn't seen that before and it was pretty scary--could definitely cause a fire.  He was going to report it to the manufacturer as a potentially serious problem.  (Resolved in March 2014)

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2014, 02:23:03 PM »
Not likely the thermostat (don't ask, you can figure it out) . . . . . .much more likely the control board of the furnace itself.

Hooray for warranties!

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Re: Oil fired furnace question
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2014, 07:58:21 AM »
Ah, circuit boards....

Two years ago, I woke up in the middle of the night to a cold, thick smoke-filled house in January.  Electrical fire smell (didn't sound my fire alarms).  My bedroom is in the basement and our kids' bedrooms are upstairs.  My wife learned that I can scale a flight of stairs in 3 steps to check on our kids!  Scary feeling waking up disoriented thinking there's a fire.

The culprit was a fried circuit board.  They aren't cheap--$650.  Of course, ours was out of warranty by 10 months.  The HVAC guy said he was surprised there was no fire--only smoldering.  He had never seen that happen before.