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a tire thread- with stipulations...
« on: December 24, 2020, 09:25:53 AM »
On my Bandit I run PR4's.  I love them, and have been very impressed with the traction and mileage, both wet and dry.  The Bandit is the bike I tour and travel on, and it will be PR4's on that as I move forward.

I need new skins front and rear for the SV1000, and I'm wondering about thoughts on tires for that mount.  While I love the PR4's, they are expensive.  I am not opposed to running them on the SV, but I am wondering if there are tries that are cheaper that meet these stipulations:

At this point I have no plans to tour on it.  Some commuting on nice days and just general nice day riding, so wet weather performance is not critical- but if I get stuck in rain I don't want to slide off.  That said, I have no plans to ride in rain with this bike (we all know how that can change).

Decent mileage and great traction.  I know those two don't always go together, but they seem to do well together on the PR4's with the dual compund. 

Lower cost than the PR4's.

So- thoughts?

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2020, 09:31:31 AM »
Conti-Motions.  I ran them when funds were tight in place of the PRs.  Got 7-8k miles out of them on the Daytona.  Stuck decent and held up ok.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2020, 09:55:20 AM »
I had good luck with Avon Spirit tyres (they're British, so that's spelled correctly :)).  They were less expensive than Michelin Road series tires and ran well on long trips.  I never had the need to test them in very wet conditions, but magazine reviews suggested they had good wet grip.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2020, 10:30:40 AM »
Don't have a lot of miles on the Dunlop Roadsmart IVs I got in October, but handling so far impressed me.  Not enough miles to rate wet weather handling and estimate lifetime wear.  I was out on cold damp roads last week, but only for 50 miles and never over 35 degree lean, but they didn't slip once.  Similar dry-road confidence to what I felt with Pilot 4s.  The Dunlops are marketed as a high-mileage ST alternative to Michelins, but they were ~$100 less than Road 5 GTs, so I figured I'd give them a try.  YRMV
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2020, 12:46:45 PM »
I recently put a Dunlop RoadSport2 rear tire on the Super Duke and it seems OK. Too early to tell what kind of mileage I will get, but they are cheap. Like $200 for a set cheap. If I can get 3k+ out of the rear on "The Beast" I will be buying more of them unless I'm going on a 10-day trip and need 4K+ mileage.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2020, 12:57:51 PM »
I paid $300 + mounting for the Dunlop IVs.  Question is whether they wear for 150% more mileage.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2020, 01:10:39 PM »
Bridgestone BT31, a tad more rounded profile than PR4's, but good wear and grip,better price too. Conti motions are a good choice , I ran many pairs of those with excellent results. Good all around tire.I would strongly recommend Conti Road Attack 3 tires good ( not quite st tire) mileage excellent grip.Good prices available on these too. may opt for these on the big V next time.I ran Road Attacks on my old speed triple many times, LOVED them
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2020, 01:27:59 PM »
For tires on the cheap, you cant beat the conti motions. I ran them on the sprint one season when funds were low. They performed very well for the price point. You are looking at sub $200 for a pair on the SV. That's less than you will pay for a PR4 rear alone.

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2020, 07:15:22 PM »
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dunlop-roadsmart-3-tires

I'm on my third set.
 Because of price difference between PR 4's my next set will be free.
I love the PR's but they are pricing them out of my comfort zone.

The Roadsmarts are a very good tire. :thumbsup:
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2020, 09:59:53 PM »
That's what came on the V. He said they were brand new. I've pushed them a bit and all has been quite good. They're squaring off a bit but that's cuz 70% of my riding is commuting. So that's to be expected. Not sure what my mileage is but I feel like it's over 5k and were it not for the squaring, I'd say they're still in decent shape.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2020, 02:32:49 AM »
I had good luck with Avon Spirit tyres (they're British, so that's spelled correctly :)).  .......................

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2020, 04:34:42 PM »
I have a set of Shinkos you can have for the price of shipping.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2020, 03:18:20 PM »
I liked the shinkonI had on the rear of my Versys 1000.


What size is the tire Smoker?

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2020, 03:37:46 PM »
I liked the shinkonI had on the rear of my Versys 1000.


What size is the tire Smoker?

Front 120/70 zr17
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2020, 03:39:19 PM »
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2020, 04:41:47 PM »
https://youtu.be/QWINGVeF_YM

That's a great video. Apples to Apples. I guess I will try Dunlops in the spring: RoadSmart in the rear and RoadSport2 in the front.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2021, 05:14:16 PM »
Dunlop Q3, cheep, American made (NY) and so much fun on the road.

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2021, 09:10:06 AM »
Getting some Pirelli P-Zero PZ4 (R02). Sadly 1 costs the same as set for my FJR and I have to get 4.

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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 09:14:16 AM »
Dunlop Q3, cheep, American made (NY) and so much fun on the road.

No questions.

trying some Road 5's on the superduke, but I think I will go back to qualifiers when they are done. Always ran the Q2's on my CBR954 and loved them. I assume the Q3's are better?   what kind of mileage are you getting out of them?
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2021, 12:03:33 PM »
Thanks all!  I grabbed Smoker's tires- we'll give them a try.  The price was good, the reviews seem OK.
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Re: a tire thread- with stipulations...
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2021, 03:55:58 PM »
Dunlop Q3, cheep, American made (NY) and so much fun on the road.

No questions.

trying some Road 5's on the superduke, but I think I will go back to qualifiers when they are done. Always ran the Q2's on my CBR954 and loved them. I assume the Q3's are better?   what kind of mileage are you getting out of them?

Never ran the Q2's.  But I get 4-5,000 running Q3's on my sprint.  Never had a slip and even got a couple track days on them.  Switched to Angel GT's for a trip to Dallas, will switch back when they are done.