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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2014, 05:13:41 PM »

While we're at it:
F-NY for conducting motorcycle only traffic stops.
F-PA for allowing local PDs to use radar.
AND
F-PA for OK'ing warrantless vehicle searches.

Is there any state where local cops can't use RADAR or LASER?

The Supreme Court has seriously cut down on warrant less vehicle searches



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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2014, 06:49:15 PM »
No thanks to Virginia, too much heavy handed enforcement there, traffic cameras even in the frigging small towns. Ok to pass thru but no way would I base a meet there.Kind of like using Munich in1939.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2014, 07:31:11 PM »
My vote would be for north or Ohio, been to WV many times.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2014, 08:36:19 PM »
S/E Ohio is definitely doable for me on a weekend. Parts of WV are a maybe. Beyond that, I will have to do the math.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2014, 09:57:58 PM »

While we're at it:
F-NY for conducting motorcycle only traffic stops.
F-PA for allowing local PDs to use radar.
AND
F-PA for OK'ing warrantless vehicle searches.

Is there any state where local cops can't use RADAR or LASER?

The Supreme Court has seriously cut down on warrant less vehicle searches



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PA restricted the use of radar to the State Police.
That restriction has been removed allowing every
single municipality to use radar. Imagine getting
lit up every 15 miles as you ride across the state.

PA required a warrant to search a vehicle if the operator
declined permission.
That restriction has been removed allowing searches if
police have "probable cause". Oh joy.

While neither of these policies makes me warm and
fuzzy, they do serve to show there is no utopia as
far as motorcycling is concerned.
It might also explain why I made nine multi-day
trips to WV last year and two already this year.
It seems a shame to dismiss any state because of
a few bad experiences.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2014, 06:55:21 AM »
While I'm shocked to hear the way PA once was. I assure u the way it is now is more in line with the way it is in most states. If u are gonna boycott PA for those reasons might as well boycott them all.


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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2014, 07:31:45 AM »
Hasn't quite happened yet


http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2014/05/02/region/doc535e96d90e33c717918945.txt

"Given that radar technology has been around since World War II, state Sen. Randy Vulakovich, R-Allegheny, believes it’s time Pennsylvania ends its long run as the only state to prohibit local officers from using radar."

"Vulakovich, a former Shaler Township police officer, has introduced legislation that would allow local departments to use radar. Two other bills in the state House would do the same."

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2014, 07:34:12 AM »
In response to Oilhed:

My point exactly. You shouldn't dismiss an entire state
because of traffic enforcement policies.

And I wasn't suggesting boycotting anybody. Just pointing
out that nowhere is perfect.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2014, 07:54:46 AM »
I put something out to the Microtel in Marietta to check rates and availability.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2014, 01:07:28 PM »
Marietta...... Ohio?  Marietta..... Pa?   Marietta........ Ga?   


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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2014, 01:10:42 PM »
O-H!

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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2014, 01:25:31 PM »
O-H!

I-O!

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2014, 01:55:46 PM »
You mean we get a choice?  I'd vote for Marietta Ohio because, well, just because.
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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »
Microtel... a hotel you can book online  :bigok:
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2014, 04:52:21 PM »
O-H!

I-O!

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Gotcha........ Same proposed August weekend?  I would love to ride in OH  IO again. :bigok: :drool: :inlove: :wings: :willy:

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2014, 06:39:59 PM »
Marietta...... Ohio?  Marietta..... Pa?   Marietta........ Ga?

All three......moving meet.

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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2014, 07:12:26 PM »


All three......moving meet.

Now you're talking.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2014, 10:25:11 PM »
I put something out to the Microtel in Marietta to check rates and availability.
We used them last time there.Worked out well.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2014, 08:21:39 AM »
I put something out to the Microtel in Marietta to check rates and availability.

Any update on rates and availability at the Marietta Microtel?

Just trying to pencil in my riding weekends (and try to avoid booking the band those same weekends).
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2014, 08:50:21 AM »
I put something out to the Microtel in Marietta to check rates and availability.

Any update on rates and availability at the Marietta Microtel?

Just trying to pencil in my riding weekends (and try to avoid booking the band those same weekends).

You know what? No! I just left a message for the sales gal. Here I go and follow the proper channels for a group reservation (online form, etc.) and get nothing. Hopefully she calls me back today or tomorrow.

Y'all keep holding August 22-24, mmmkay? :)
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2014, 09:59:28 AM »
I'd suggest looking into the Lafayette also.
It has tons of atmosphere, a rooftop bar, walking
distance to Hammar ( for food ), a brewery next
door and it sits right on the river.
There's a restaurant on site but no free breakfast
on weekends.
Rooms start at about 75.00 a night.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2014, 10:42:51 AM »
I'd suggest looking into the Lafayette also.
It has tons of atmosphere, a rooftop bar, walking
distance to Hammar ( for food ), a brewery next
door and it sits right on the river.
There's a restaurant on site but no free breakfast
on weekends.
Rooms start at about 75.00 a night.

I'm happy to let you do that.

If Marietta doesn't pan out, I'm stepping away from further inquiries. Fiscal year end is approaching as is my busy travel time at work.
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« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2014, 03:23:39 PM »
I'd suggest looking into the Lafayette also.
It has tons of atmosphere, a rooftop bar, walking
distance to Hammar ( for food ), a brewery next
door and it sits right on the river.
There's a restaurant on site but no free breakfast
on weekends.
Rooms start at about 75.00 a night.


Wow - that looks like my kinda place.  :thumbsup:

http://www.lafayettehotel.com/the-hotel/history.html

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2014, 10:42:25 AM »
OK, kids. I heard back from the Microtel. They can do a 20-room block for the weekend of August 22-24, 2014 at $85.00/night which includes free breakfast each morning (waffle machine, hard-boiled eggs, fruit, oatmeal, cereal, toast, juice, coffee, tea, etc.).

For dinner options, there's a Bob Evans within throwing distance, a Shoney's and a Pizza Hut across the street, and a very good Mexican restaurant (including nommy margaritas!) and an Applebee's within a 3-5 minute walk. There's also a Marathon gas station right there, too.

I told Janet I'd put the idea out to the group and let her know by EOD Friday whether to secure the block for us or not.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2014, 10:49:53 AM »
Works for me.

As an aside, the annual MSTA (formerly HSTA) "Mail Pouch Flyby" in Marietta is also that weekend, so there will be a lot more sport/ST riders around (riding, dining) that weekend.  Not saying that it's a deal breaker on the date, just noting that the roads probably won't be as empty as on a typical weekend.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2014, 10:50:06 AM »

Wow - that looks like my kinda place.  :thumbsup:

http://www.lafayettehotel.com/the-hotel/history.html



That looks way too classy for this group.



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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #76 on: May 29, 2014, 12:38:01 PM »

Wow - that looks like my kinda place.  :thumbsup:

http://www.lafayettehotel.com/the-hotel/history.html



That looks way too classy for this group.



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Haha. It's actually pretty laid-back and relaxed
compared to most places.
It sees a fair share of bike groups during the year.
There were at least three groups booked the
last time I stayed there.
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« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2014, 05:29:38 PM »
Works for me.

As an aside, the annual MSTA (formerly HSTA) "Mail Pouch Flyby" in Marietta is also that weekend, so there will be a lot more sport/ST riders around (riding, dining) that weekend.  Not saying that it's a deal breaker on the date, just noting that the roads probably won't be as empty as on a typical weekend.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2014, 08:02:37 PM »
 I love it. Thanks Mrs Cb. I will talk to the wife and work on it post haste. Thanks again. I will post up by this weekend.

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« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2014, 09:04:24 PM »
True that.  It's only 57 miles to the border.   

I'd sooner spend my money in another state.  F Virginia.!.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2014, 09:10:04 PM »
While we're at it:
F-NY for conducting motorcycle only traffic stops.
F-PA for allowing local PDs to use radar.
AND
F-PA for OK'ing warrantless vehicle searches.
I'm seeing a pattern here and it's not good.  They are turning us all into criminals.  We may have more freedom taking a ride in the USSR. 

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2014, 12:07:23 PM »
My plans/life/times are a changin'.... So, is this planned for August 22-24, at a TBD location if I interpret all 6 pages correctly?
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« Reply #82 on: June 03, 2014, 12:53:26 PM »
Thought we settled on Marietta.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #83 on: June 03, 2014, 02:47:57 PM »
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« Reply #84 on: June 03, 2014, 03:13:57 PM »
I put forth the information regarding Marietta and asked for feedback. I didn't get very much. (Thank you Garry, tankhead, and Skee.)

I'm happy to be a bitch...er, I mean benevolent dictator and say, "ESTx 2014 is in Marietta!" but I also don't want to reserve a block of 20 rooms if no one is going to show. Silence, to me, is disinterest on this board. Discussion and discourse would at least prove that someone saw my post.
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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2014, 03:14:39 PM »
AFAIK, Mrs CB had/has a block of rooms tentatively reserved at the Marietta Microtel last week. I don't recall seeing a "final answser" post yet.

EDIT: I guess Mrs CB and I were replying at the same time.
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« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2014, 03:37:44 PM »
Well, my vote is for Marietta, August 22-24.  Rue should be all healed up by then and can ride.

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Re: ESTx 2014 Discussion
« Reply #87 on: June 03, 2014, 05:33:12 PM »
Well I was hoping for PA,NY, NJ in Sept. Just listening now.


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« Reply #88 on: June 03, 2014, 06:28:31 PM »
I was deliberately noncommittal because quite frankly, I don't really care where it is, I'll ride there if it fits into my schedule.  Date & location are fine by me.   I've been pretty vocal about how great the road in SE Ohio are.   

There's no reason we couldn't have 2 locations in 2 different months. 

Might draw 2 different groups of riders, based on both location and personal schedule. 

One major stumbling block...

It's tough enough to find someone willing to do the legwork to organize one meet.

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« Reply #89 on: June 03, 2014, 10:15:38 PM »
I thought I agreed with Ohio, so if not I'm in, if you all do it. Thanks Beth!

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« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2014, 07:42:37 AM »
Update coming later this morning! Just finalizing some details, crossing some Ts, and dotting some Is.

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« Reply #91 on: June 04, 2014, 04:08:45 PM »
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