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The Open Road => General Sport-Touring Discussion => Topic started by: 1KPerDay on December 06, 2019, 10:58:03 AM

Title: Just the tip
Post by: 1KPerDay on December 06, 2019, 10:58:03 AM
https://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/ride-review/10-worst-factory-customs/?mc_cid=ff523d542d&mc_eid=15aa0db544 (https://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/ride-review/10-worst-factory-customs/?mc_cid=ff523d542d&mc_eid=15aa0db544)

Some great writing
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: chornbe on December 06, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
Fun read. They're out of their collective mind on the XR1200, though. For what was available in the day for parts bin, cross-fitting parts, and "we can't get too invested in manufacturing after what happened with the V-Rods", the XR1200 hits all the marks it could ever possibly hit without its own dedicated production line.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: 1KPerDay on December 06, 2019, 05:34:18 PM
I agree about the styling though. Even though I own one. It's too angular and the pipes flow wrong. Still one of the coolest hogs ever though.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Baxter on December 07, 2019, 12:01:00 AM
The XR1200 was the most comfortable H-D I ever sat on.  I regret not taking one for a test ride.  But I didn't want to put any miles on a bike that wasn't a demonstrator because I wasn't in the market.

I would have needed it lowered, but that looked doable.  I don't know the best way to work out the range issues--carry an aux fuel can or look into whether the 4.5 gallon Sporty tank would be swappable (and at what price). 

My recollection is that Harley even tried starting a racing class for that bike. Shame it didn't catch on.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Mrs. DantesDame on December 07, 2019, 07:24:31 AM
Oh man, the 1200C was the worst-looking BMW I've ever seen.  :crazy:

I, too, was just getting into motorcycles when it came out but even then, I knew that it was a nasty, ugly piece of work.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: chornbe on December 07, 2019, 06:06:35 PM
My recollection is that Harley even tried starting a racing class for that bike. Shame it didn't catch on.

Oh, there is (or at least, was) a whole club/class for it. Shelina Moreda races in it, though she's probably backed off now, with all the other stuff going on in her career. What a joy hearing a couple dozen of those bikes going around the track. It was a spec-class "almost stock" race class, so every bike was set up the same, and it really came down to how much fun the riders wanted to have. They were fun races to watch.

Got to see her run at Indy and at NJMP on those, as well as some other classes.

I'm totally name dropping because I got to know here a little bit over a few years time, and Liz and I spent a weekend with her a few years back. :D

Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Baxter on December 07, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Oh man, the 1200C was the worst-looking BMW I've ever seen.  :crazy:

I, too, was just getting into motorcycles when it came out but even then, I knew that it was a nasty, ugly piece of work.

I remember seeing that bike at a showroom--probably at Leo's South in the Minneapolis suburbs while visiting family at the holidays.  The phrase "neither fish nor fowl" seemed to apply.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: leeo45 on December 08, 2019, 03:40:03 AM
Oh man, the 1200C was the worst-looking BMW I've ever seen.  :crazy:

I, too, was just getting into motorcycles when it came out but even then, I knew that it was a nasty, ugly piece of work.

For some reason that bike always reminded me of my Mom's Kitchenaid mixer.   Not in a good way.
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Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Mrs. DantesDame on December 08, 2019, 05:49:05 AM
Oh man, the 1200C was the worst-looking BMW I've ever seen.  :crazy:

I, too, was just getting into motorcycles when it came out but even then, I knew that it was a nasty, ugly piece of work.

For some reason that bike always reminded me of my Mom's Kitchenaid mixer.   Not in a good way.
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 :rolf:  YES!
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Skee on December 08, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
Someday, when it's sitting in Stockholm's MOMA next to the Formula 1 racer labeled as an Art Decco classic, you'll wish you had bought one.

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Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: mr.awesome on December 08, 2019, 12:18:08 PM
Oh man, the 1200C was the worst-looking BMW I've ever seen.  :crazy:

I, too, was just getting into motorcycles when it came out but even then, I knew that it was a nasty, ugly piece of work.

I actually liked it when it first came out. And still do.   :couch:  I'm just funny that way.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: chornbe on December 08, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
I thought it was a fun ride, but the CL-C version was the most hideous thing on wheels. Period. That includes the Ducati Indiana; inarguably the worst knock off of Japan's knock offs of what someone over there thought an American cruiser looked like when having it described over a bad phone line and without ever actually seeing on in person.

The CL-C spider-eyed monstrosity
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"We named the dog Indiana!"
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Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: 1KPerDay on December 08, 2019, 07:59:55 PM
I thought it was a fun ride, but the CL-C version was the most hideous thing on wheels. Period. That includes the Ducati Indiana; inarguably the worst knock off of Japan's knock offs of what someone over there thought an American cruiser looked like when having it described over a bad phone line and without ever actually seeing on in person.

The CL-C spider-eyed monstrosity
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GAH!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: Wesley on December 09, 2019, 10:49:00 AM

"We named the dog Indiana!"
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The Indiana looks like the love child of a Honda Shadow 700 and a Honda Nighthawk 650 from the 1980s.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: chornbe on December 09, 2019, 01:07:19 PM
... Made in India by blind monks.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: SLK50 on December 09, 2019, 03:08:49 PM
... Made in India by blind monks.

At least it doesn’t look like it was assembled
in the plumbing aisle at Lowe’s.
Title: Re: Just the tip
Post by: motociclista on December 14, 2019, 07:13:21 PM
My recollection is that Harley even tried starting a racing class for that bike. Shame it didn't catch on.

Oh, there is (or at least, was) a whole club/class for it. Shelina Moreda races in it, though she's probably backed off now, with all the other stuff going on in her career.

The XR class is long gone from MotoAmerica and so is Shelina (she has some hard feelings toward the organization, for reasons I don't fully understand).

I still remember being at Indy when the XR1200s were racing as a MotoGP support class and I happened to pass a couple of volunteer corner workers, just as I heard one say to the other, "Have you had to pick up one of those Harleys yet? Those things are like tractors!" I guess that's a fair assessment after you've pulled a few Moto3 bikes out of the gravel trap.

I have a friend who has a low-mile XR1200. He actually owned a Sportster and had done hours of research on how he could modify it so it would perform a little better on the highway. He bought all the parts he needed on eBay and just needed to go to the Harley-Davidson dealer to buy a gasket, last item on the list. He walked in and there was a pristine XR1200 with 93 miles on it that some guy "had bought for his wife." My friend thought, hmm, I could do a lot of work and still not have something that performs as good as this or I could just trade in my Sportster for this. He ended up selling those parts back to eBay.  ;D