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Title: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on November 18, 2019, 04:38:20 PM
Might as well start things off.

Alex Marquez to join his brother on the Repsol Honda team.

Discuss.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on November 18, 2019, 06:44:04 PM

Alex Marquez to join his brother on the Repsol Honda team.

Discuss.

Really didn't see that coming. Would have been nice for Cal to finally get the factory seat, but competition at that level isn't about nice. My money, like most, was on Zarco. But Alex? 

Well, about a year ago I was thinking, "I wonder why they signed Quartararo?" So, yeah, I won't be anyone's talent scout.

Read some harsh words from Aleix Espargaro about Zarco, saying he doesn't deserve the best bike on the best team when he walked away from a problem bike. He pointed out that he and his brother have been on frustrating bikes (and Pol rode the KTM much better) but stuck it out because it's their job. He was supportive of Alex getting the ride and said either Pol or himself deserved it more than Zarco.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on November 18, 2019, 08:51:43 PM
Like you, my initial reaction was surprise that Alex would get the Repsol ride. But after further thought, it makes more sense.

Honda didn't have a lot of options because the entire field is in the middle of contracts that expire after next year.

Crutchlow? He's probably going to retire after next year. So one year putting up with a rider who is blunt in his criticism of the bike and crashes a lot. You know there's no long-term future there, so why put up with the bother for one year?

Zarco? If he couldn't adapt to the KTM, there's reason to fear he would not be able to adapt to the Honda. Actually, nobody but Marquez has, just as nobody but Stoner could win races on the Ducati. If Lorenzo and the Honda were a mismatch made well south of heaven, then Zarco and the Honda seem an even more unlikely match.

Bautista? Honda needs him more in WSBK, don't they? Plus, his second-half meltdown didn't burnish his reputation.

Alex Marquez just won the Moto2 title, and the obvious thing to do after that is move up to MotoGP. Clearly, moving to a factory team, even the top factory team, is not the obvious thing. But I can see the logic in Honda's decision. There's one person in the world who can ride their bike to victory consistently. This decision keeps that one man happy and it's not like they had an obviously better option.

All JMHO.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on November 18, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
Honda is hedging their bet by only signing Alex to a one year contract. That puts them in playfor 2021.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on November 19, 2019, 08:28:55 AM
MM to KTM in 2024, you heard it here first.....

as for 2020 I hope Zarco finds something, I think he has potential. I wish Rossi the best but realistically this will probably be his final year. MM will continue to dominate. Quatraro will replace Dovi as the bridesmaid and Rins will win a couple races.

My thoughts anyway, but I could be wrong because: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/south-dakota-ads-suggest-people-from-the-state-are-on-meth.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/south-dakota-ads-suggest-people-from-the-state-are-on-meth.html)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on November 19, 2019, 01:04:17 PM
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My thoughts anyway, but I could be wrong because: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/south-dakota-ads-suggest-people-from-the-state-are-on-meth.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/south-dakota-ads-suggest-people-from-the-state-are-on-meth.html)

 :lol:    Out.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on November 20, 2019, 08:41:16 AM
MM to KTM in 2024, you heard it here first.....

as for 2020 I hope Zarco finds something,...

From Spanish Press - Johann Zarco  will continue next season at MotoGP after reaching an agreement with Ducati to pilot the satellite Desmosedici of Avintia Racing. The team of  Raul Romero  has extended for two years and with best material agreement with Ducati and that has led Zarco to finally accept a proposal that had initially rejected.

The news is not yet official but the Italian press takes it for granted and points out that Zarco's  first test  with the colors of Ducati Avintia will be next week in Jerez.  Paolo Ciabatti and Gigi Dall'Igna  convinced the French driver after the last race in Valencia. Zarco will have a Desmosedici GP19, with extensive factory technical support.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on November 20, 2019, 08:44:53 AM
ugh, I hope it goes better than KTM, but he already stated it was not a good team and the Duc doesn't appear to fit his riding style. I wish him luck.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on November 20, 2019, 01:26:54 PM
ugh, I hope it goes better than KTM, but he already stated it was not a good team and the Duc doesn't appear to fit his riding style. I wish him luck.

Beggars can’t be choosers.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on November 20, 2019, 01:58:18 PM
true, and the fact he is almost 30 isn't helping I'm sure
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on November 20, 2019, 05:44:18 PM
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on November 21, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?

Abraham said he had too. Guess it will boil down to who can bring the most coin...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on November 21, 2019, 01:20:55 PM
Sounds like a sweet deal for Avintia. Will they get GP19s for both riders or just Zarco?

I think I read Rabat had already signed a new contract. I guess this means Abraham is out?

Abraham said he had too. Guess it will boil down to who can bring the most coin...

Huh, hadn't heard that. Well, I guess that would be Abraham. It'll be interesting to watch that play out.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on November 23, 2019, 05:50:20 PM

Abraham said he had too.

In the MotoGP paddock, contracts are worth the paper they are written on.

https://motomatters.com/news/2019/11/23/the_first_shoe_drops_avintia_terminates.html (https://motomatters.com/news/2019/11/23/the_first_shoe_drops_avintia_terminates.html)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on November 23, 2019, 07:36:58 PM
Glad to see Abraham go. I know MotoGP is expensive and bringing sponsorship money means a lot, but his daddy bought him his years in MotoGP. He sure as hell didn't deserve a ride based on his merits as a rider. Look at his results: one win and one third (both in Moto2) across all three classes.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on December 09, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
Zarco officially signs with Ducati to race on the Avintia team (which is now an official satellite team) for 2020. He will be on a 2019 bike.

It will be interesting to see how he does (top 10s?) and if he can beat out Miller, Petrucci, et.al. for the 2021 factory seat.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on December 09, 2019, 10:50:33 AM
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on December 09, 2019, 03:21:51 PM
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...

Perhaps. But remember that Jorge went on a mid-season tear on the 2018 Ducati, so whatever they figured for him and his riding style would (hopefully) apply to Zarco. He probably won't be getting a bunch of new stuff to constantly try, so it should be a relatively stable platform with lots of data from this year. Maybe he'll do OK. It'd be nice to have a mix of guys fighting for podiums.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on December 09, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
I would like to see Zarco succeed, But I'm afraid it is going to be a repeat of last year.  Hopefully I'm wrong...

Perhaps. But remember that Jorge went on a mid-season tear on the 2018 Ducati, so whatever they figured for him and his riding style would (hopefully) apply to Zarco. He probably won't be getting a bunch of new stuff to constantly try, so it should be a relatively stable platform with lots of data from this year. Maybe he'll do OK. It'd be nice to a mix of guys fighting for podiums.

hopefully you are right!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on December 10, 2019, 08:54:32 AM
Now if only Zarco would learn to keep his mouth shut... 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on December 10, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
Now if only Zarco would learn to keep his mouth shut...

This.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on December 10, 2019, 12:59:26 PM
I like Zarco and he definitely has talent, but I think he may be a bit more fragile mentally than most of the others?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on December 17, 2019, 11:48:59 PM
Looks like 2020 will start without Iannone. He's indefinitely suspended for failing a drug test. Some kind of anabolic steroid.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test (https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on December 18, 2019, 06:16:42 AM
Looks like 2020 will start without Iannone. He's indefinitely suspended for failing a drug test. Some kind of anabolic steroid.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test (https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935154/1/iannone-suspended-failing-fim-drugs-test)

I saw in the MotoGP article that he can be present for the testing of the "B" sample (or whatever the process is). He claims on social media that he's been tested all year with no issues and this is just a false positive.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on December 18, 2019, 02:12:02 PM
Jorge offered role of Yamaha test rider

https://motomatters.com/news/2019/12/18/jorge_lorenzo_to_return_to_motogp.html

Scything around an empty track concentrating on perfect lines is right up his wheelhouse.

Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on January 09, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
Strike two for Iannone:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small (https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small)

My favored line from the article: "Since drostanolone is commonly used as a bodybuilding drug it is seen as being of little obvious benefit in the 'lean' world of MotoGP."

Yes, but what about the "shirtless photo with famous girlfriend world of Instagram," which is where Iannnone is truly competitive? Maybe that was his priority?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on January 09, 2020, 12:30:36 PM


Yes, but what about the "shirtless photo with famous girlfriend world of Instagram," which is where Iannnone is truly competitive? Maybe that was his priority?

 :lol:  I really did laugh out loud at that.

His attorney is still trying to push the contaminated food explanation. I don't think it's going to work for him.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on January 11, 2020, 09:22:17 PM
The problem for Iannone is that with these proceedings the burden of proof is on him to prove he ate contaminated meat. It's not a case of "innocent until proven guilty." Proving that something you ate months ago was contaminated in an unusual way is obviously a difficult task.

As usual, David Emmett at Motomatters had a thorough report, if anyone hasn't seen it yet and is interested.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2020/01/10/andrea_iannone_s_doping_suspension_what.html (https://motomatters.com/analysis/2020/01/10/andrea_iannone_s_doping_suspension_what.html)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on January 29, 2020, 07:37:38 AM
Silly Season starts way early. From MotoGP:

2019 Rookie of the Year Fabio Quartararo will join Maverick Viñales at Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team in 2021 and 2022.

So the factory Yamaha team for 2021 and 2022 is a done deal. Without Rossi. But Rossi has been assured that he will get a factory M1 and factory support if he chooses to continue racing in 2021/2022. I guess that he goes to Petronis. Rossi plans to decide mid-season once he has had a chance to see how competitive he is on the updated M1.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on January 29, 2020, 08:06:29 AM
MM claims he will on be 60-70% for the test next week. not a good way to start the season.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on January 29, 2020, 08:31:04 AM
MM claims he will on be 60-70% for the test next week. not a good way to start the season.

Mmmmm....yeah I've seen that as well. MM is the new Jedi of Psych, so I wonder.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on January 29, 2020, 08:59:40 AM
I believe MM will be the one to end MM's time at the top. The shoulders seem to be more trouble than anyone will admit?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on January 29, 2020, 12:11:56 PM
I believe MM will be the one to end MM's time at the top. The shoulders seem to be more trouble than anyone will admit?

I forget which race it was -- but watching him lay down on the track after winning so someone could pop his shoulder back into joint so he could finish the victory lap was just jaw-dropping for me. But I figure if he was that could with the injury, he'll be even stronger with the surgical repair.

It will definitely be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on January 29, 2020, 01:57:05 PM
I think he will continue to dominate for a few more years, but it's going to catch up to him eventually. I doubt he will still be in the game at Rossi's age.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on January 29, 2020, 05:35:32 PM
I believe MM will be the one to end MM's time at the top. The shoulders seem to be more trouble than anyone will admit?

Shoulders have been the end of many a racing career. The most complex joint in the human body and an essential one for riding a motorcycle fast.

Meanwhile, in the big news today, Yamaha has bet on the future and youth, while carefully not burning any bridges with its biggest star power.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/its-looking-more-like-2020-could-be-valentino-rossis-farewell-tour-in-motogp
 (https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/its-looking-more-like-2020-could-be-valentino-rossis-farewell-tour-in-motogp)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Patmo on January 29, 2020, 05:45:51 PM
Word out today that NBC/NBCsn will be televising the MotoGP races and will stream the Moto 2 and Moto 3 races!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on February 02, 2020, 06:24:06 PM
I think he will continue to dominate for a few more years, but it's going to catch up to him eventually. I doubt he will still be in the game at Rossi's age.

I doubt anyone will replicate Rossi's longevity in this day and age. The only way anyone is going to ride competitively into their 40's is with significant modern science stepping in.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on February 03, 2020, 02:42:48 PM
Word out today that NBC/NBCsn will be televising the MotoGP races and will stream the Moto 2 and Moto 3 races!

I hope that helps them find a bigger audience here. Without cable, I'll still be watching on VideoPass, but this has got to be a big improvement from where they were. I can't even remember the name of that network.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on February 03, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
Word out today that NBC/NBCsn will be televising the MotoGP races and will stream the Moto 2 and Moto 3 races!

I hope that helps them find a bigger audience here. Without cable, I'll still be watching on VideoPass, but this has got to be a big improvement from where they were. I can't even remember the name of that network.

Speed Channel with Dave Despain announcing :).  Of course that was quite some time ago!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on February 03, 2020, 07:31:15 PM
Word out today that NBC/NBCsn will be televising the MotoGP races and will stream the Moto 2 and Moto 3 races!

I hope that helps them find a bigger audience here. Without cable, I'll still be watching on VideoPass, but this has got to be a big improvement from where they were. I can't even remember the name of that network.

Speed Channel with Dave Despain announcing :).  Of course that was quite some time ago!

Ah, memories...

That Golden Age when Speed had MotoGP, WSBK, and AMA and then would even throw some BSB at us during the off season. It probably cost me a lot of riding time.

I remember being somewhat, um, lit up one evening and randomly dropping a note to Despain thanking him for his time on Two Wheel Tuesday (or whatever that show was called) after that show got cancelled. He took the time to write a really nice reply. And thanked me for being "the guy who watched the show."  :lol:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on February 04, 2020, 08:01:36 AM
I met him at the vintage races in Steamboat back in the 1990's ? great guy and always seemed to have time for "fans"
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on February 28, 2020, 07:42:08 AM
I'm not sure what the consensus is on having a MotoGP league for 2020 but MotoGP.com has a new game. It looks a bit... complicated? Gimmicky maybe?

There's a salary cap, you pick four riders (two get full points, two get half points), there are bonus points for improving from grid position, points for fastest lap and something called the "Turbo Rider option" that awards double points.

I know last year's game was not universally popular. Thoughts about this one?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on February 28, 2020, 09:36:19 AM

Ah, memories...

That Golden Age when Speed had MotoGP, WSBK, and AMA and then would even throw some BSB at us during the off season. It probably cost me a lot of riding time.

I remember being somewhat, um, lit up one evening and randomly dropping a note to Despain thanking him for his time on Two Wheel Tuesday (or whatever that show was called) after that show got cancelled. He took the time to write a really nice reply. And thanked me for being "the guy who watched the show."  :lol:

Met Dave at an AMA race weekend at Road Atlanta after the racing was over Sunday evening, riding around on a golf cart with Sadowski. Great guy and a motorcycle purist at heart. Since retiring (full time) a few years ago, he has become quite active on twitter (FYI for those that might be on there: @DaveDespain)   
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on February 28, 2020, 10:28:40 AM
I'm not sure what the consensus is on having a MotoGP league for 2020 but MotoGP.com has a new game. It looks a bit... complicated? Gimmicky maybe?

There's a salary cap, you pick four riders (two get full points, two get half points), there are bonus points for improving from grid position, points for fastest lap and something called the "Turbo Rider option" that awards double points.

I know last year's game was not universally popular. Thoughts about this one?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828)


EDIT:  Looked at the motogp.com game and signed up as HM Faceplant
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on February 28, 2020, 10:34:05 AM
Word out today that NBC/NBCsn will be televising the MotoGP races and will stream the Moto 2 and Moto 3 races!

Finally 'official' https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/28/nbc-sports-group-and-motogp-partner-on-multi-year-agreement/326113 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/28/nbc-sports-group-and-motogp-partner-on-multi-year-agreement/326113)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on February 28, 2020, 10:39:49 AM
I'm not sure what the consensus is on having a MotoGP league for 2020 but MotoGP.com has a new game. It looks a bit... complicated? Gimmicky maybe?

There's a salary cap, you pick four riders (two get full points, two get half points), there are bonus points for improving from grid position, points for fastest lap and something called the "Turbo Rider option" that awards double points.

I know last year's game was not universally popular. Thoughts about this one?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828)

Wasn't planning on it if MotoGOAT was the only option again but I'm in for this since I'll be participating in the MotoPod league in the MotoGP game anyway.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on February 28, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
i. Great guy and a motorcycle purist at heart. Since retiring (full time) a few years ago, he has become quite active on twitter (FYI for those that might be on there: @DaveDespain)   

haha.. why is it every tweet I read is in his voice??
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on February 28, 2020, 11:35:11 AM
GO JOE  ;D

Jorge Navarro (Speed Up Racing) topped Day 1 of testing in the desert at Losail International Circuit, with the Spaniard putting in a 1:59.168 to pull two tenths clear of Xavi Vierge (Petronas Sprinta Racing). Enea Bastianini (Italtrans Racing Team) locked out the top three just 0.021 further back, with American Joe Roberts a similar gap behind in fourth after an impressive showing for the American Racing Team rider.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on February 28, 2020, 12:55:36 PM
^^^
Oh, man, that's good news. Any inside scoop on his health? He seemed banged up all last year.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on February 28, 2020, 02:41:11 PM
^^^
Oh, man, that's good news. Any inside scoop on his health? He seemed banged up all last year.

Healthy. John Hopkins working as rider coach for team. On Kalex chassis now. New crew chief that he really likes.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on February 28, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
I'm not sure what the consensus is on having a MotoGP league for 2020 but MotoGP.com has a new game. It looks a bit... complicated? Gimmicky maybe?

There's a salary cap, you pick four riders (two get full points, two get half points), there are bonus points for improving from grid position, points for fastest lap and something called the "Turbo Rider option" that awards double points.

I know last year's game was not universally popular. Thoughts about this one?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/27/introducing-motogp-fantasy/325828)


I'm not going to be able to play this year. Got some travel coming up that will make it pretty much impossible to get picks in for each race.   :(

I take it all back. You don't have to enter picks for each race. You can let your team ride. I'm back in. I've already signed up as HM Faceplant.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on March 01, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
MotoGP class cancelled at Qatar due to travel restrictions from Italy. More here:

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209)

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus (https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 01, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
If travel bans on people coming from Italy become a thing, there won't be much racing anywhere.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on March 01, 2020, 08:01:06 PM
MotoGP class cancelled at Qatar due to travel restrictions from Italy. More here:

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209)

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus (https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus)

Throw me a bone here and give me a link.  ;D I posted the news at 3 p.m.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motogp-race-in-qatar-canceled-due-to-virus-related-travel-restrictions (https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motogp-race-in-qatar-canceled-due-to-virus-related-travel-restrictions)

Chercoles is reporting that Thailand will be canceled, too, and Texas will be the opening round. But that's totally unconfirmed. Even the rounds in Europe could be disrupted because there are already restrictions between Italy and neighboring countries.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 01, 2020, 10:26:40 PM
MotoGP class cancelled at Qatar due to travel restrictions from Italy. More here:

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/01/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/326209)

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus (https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/148505/qatar-motogp-race-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus)

Throw me a bone here and give me a link.  ;D I posted the news at 3 p.m.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motogp-race-in-qatar-canceled-due-to-virus-related-travel-restrictions (https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motogp-race-in-qatar-canceled-due-to-virus-related-travel-restrictions)

Chercoles is reporting that Thailand will be canceled, too, and Texas will be the opening round. But that's totally unconfirmed. Even the rounds in Europe could be disrupted because there are already restrictions between Italy and neighboring countries.

Ugh. We might not let them either. We already have travel restrictions to Italy.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on March 02, 2020, 09:49:17 AM
motogp.com confirms Thailand is out Austin will be the first race of the year.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 02, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
Bummer.

I wonder how many WSBK folks returned to Italy after Australia? Their Qatar round is Mar 13-15.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on March 02, 2020, 02:05:47 PM
Hopefully Austin doesn't drop out as well, looking forward to attending again. 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on March 06, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
^^^
Oh, man, that's good news. Any inside scoop on his health? He seemed banged up all last year.

Healthy. John Hopkins working as rider coach for team. On Kalex chassis now. New crew chief that he really likes.

Joe Roberts / Qatar

FP1 - 5th
FP2 - 1st !!!

Great start to the weekend !! Hopefully he can keep it going thru the race.

GO JOE  :smiley_thumb:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on March 07, 2020, 11:10:44 AM
GO JOE  :smiley_thumb:

And now on pole with a new lap record!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 07, 2020, 12:32:06 PM
GO JOE  :smiley_thumb:

And now on pole with a new lap record!

Woot!! I shouldn't have popped into the spoiler thread before watching, but I'm still going to enjoy that.   :bigok:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on March 10, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
And Austin is rescheduled for November......this season may never start. The only one benefiting from this is Marquez, the shoulder should be fine by the season opener.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on March 10, 2020, 02:23:43 PM
And Austin is rescheduled for November......this season may never start. The only one benefiting from this is Marquez, the shoulder should be fine by the season opener.

And the other guys that also had surgery (Nakagami, Olivera, and one more). Plus it might give the FIM(?) time to decide Iannone's fate for the season without missing any races.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on March 10, 2020, 02:29:01 PM
that is true...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: st2sam on March 10, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
I wonder if Moto America will cancel their Austin race?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on March 10, 2020, 05:04:27 PM
If I'm lucky maybe I can see the championship decided in Austin in November :)  If MM doesn't have it wrapped up way before that of course.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: satchmo on March 11, 2020, 07:51:41 PM
So, apparently the American and Argentina rounds have been postponed until November.  Rumor has it that Dorna as been examining Indy and Portimao.  Sepang has allegedly offered to host twice this year. 

Crazy season, and we haven't even had our first MotoGP race yet!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on March 14, 2020, 08:25:41 AM
 :(

I understand why the schedule change and don't fault their decisions at all, but I still miss the racing.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 14, 2020, 11:40:35 AM
Ditto.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Cablebandit on March 14, 2020, 11:55:01 AM
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Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 14, 2020, 12:09:49 PM
^^^^
Just don't let Iannone inside of you.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on March 14, 2020, 12:34:02 PM
^^^^
Just don't let Iannone inside of you.

Could make the air-bag leathers even more protective.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on March 19, 2020, 10:00:17 PM
Anyone using their VideoPass to play the eSports games? Might have a little free time at home in the coming weekends.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
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Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on March 26, 2020, 12:27:40 PM
May Jerez race postponed, no more calendar updates.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: R Doug on March 26, 2020, 04:48:01 PM
I'm hoping the rescheduled COTA race stands.   :crazy:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on April 01, 2020, 12:59:54 PM
Iannone gets 18- month suspension.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on April 01, 2020, 01:06:00 PM
Iannone gets 18- month suspension.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777)

Wow. They didn't buy his argument at all.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on April 01, 2020, 02:50:13 PM
Iannone gets 18- month suspension.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777)

Wow. They didn't buy his argument at all.

And 18 months screws up two seasons. He'd have a (slim) chance at a contract for 2021 if it was only 12 months.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on April 01, 2020, 03:00:34 PM
Iannone gets 18- month suspension.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777)

Wow. They didn't buy his argument at all.

And 18 months screws up two seasons. He'd have a (slim) chance at a contract for 2021 if it was only 12 months.

Yeah. I can't see anyone holding a seat for him. I'm guessing he'll come back in Moto2 if he comes back at all.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: st2sam on April 01, 2020, 07:17:28 PM
Iannone gets 18- month suspension.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777)
Wow. They didn't buy his argument at all.
And 18 months screws up two seasons. He'd have a (slim) chance at a contract for 2021 if it was only 12 months.

Yeah. I can't see anyone holding a seat for him. I'm guessing he'll come back in Moto2 if he comes back at all.

Moto2 ?
IMO,  stick a fork in him he's done. :(
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on June 11, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
We have a schedule for the remainder of the year. Looks like they are doubling up on tracks to make almost a full season. Some dates and tracks remain TBD. Like COTA. The series we run in is running at COTA this weekend, but no spectators and under social distancing. So we'll see.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on June 11, 2020, 03:29:44 PM
Dorna has said for any of the flyaways to happen there must be spectators allowed - can't afford to take the show on the road if venue isn't generating anything from ticket sales.  I've got tickets for COTA again this year, fingers crossed it happens.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: R Doug on June 12, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
I've got tickets for COTA again this year, fingers crossed it happens.

+1

My tickets show as not being refundable.  If they reschedule, I hope American Airlines are fairly accommodative in changing a flight. 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on June 13, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
I doubt the race will happen. https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/the-us-motogp-round-is-not-dead-yet-but-probably-endangered (https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/the-us-motogp-round-is-not-dead-yet-but-probably-endangered)

Meanwhile, COTA is still advertising MotoGP tickets on its website for the old date of Nov. 13-15, when MotoGP will be in Valencia. How can you sell a ticket for a date you absolutely know won't happen? Their advertising is a little out of date, too. One of the "enticements" for buying one of their $200 tickets is "Cheer with thousands of screaming fans..." Sounds like a virus petri dish to me.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on July 08, 2020, 12:44:52 PM
COTA officially cancelled
Title: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Smoothie on July 08, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
COTA officially cancelled


No big surprise, but still I'm disappointed.

Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 13, 2020, 06:12:47 AM
Lots of silly season activity this morning for 2021/2022. Pol to HRC. Alex M to LRC. Cal is looking for a ride now (Aprilia rumors). Franky extended at Petronis SRT.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Skee on July 17, 2020, 10:23:58 PM
Slow motion video from 2019.  Maybe not the correct thread to post this in.  ENJOY.

http://youtu.be/_aU92zU0gpc (http://youtu.be/_aU92zU0gpc)
https://youtu.be/_aU92zU0gpc (https://youtu.be/_aU92zU0gpc)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 20, 2020, 07:15:03 AM
Didn't anybody watch the races yesterday? More than a little excitement over the weekend.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Skee on July 20, 2020, 07:43:48 AM
It was mind boggling. I thought the race was over for Márquez when he dropped into last place and a dozen laps later he was headed for the podium.  And then he wasn’t.  Hope he is OK.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 20, 2020, 08:15:08 AM
Not sure if it was worth the 8 month wait, but that race did not disappoint!!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 20, 2020, 09:51:09 AM
With the condensed schedule, DNFs and/or getting injured have the potential for a lot more damage to your championship chances. MM93 got zero yesterday and I suspect is unlikely to race this coming weekend. So that's 0 out of 50. Cruthlow and Rins were both out pre-race with crash related injuries. I guess we'll see who is declared fit this weekend.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Skee on July 20, 2020, 10:05:48 AM
I wonder just how much other riders will miss MM93. The awesome comeback he made was not worth the DNF.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 20, 2020, 10:44:22 AM
It's definately going to make the championship more difficult for him. As mentioned I'm sure he will miss next week and then he only has one weekend off before the next race so depending on the rumored nerve damage how good will he be by then ?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: PatM on July 20, 2020, 01:26:11 PM
Watched the replay last night. I think Quartararo will be the guy to beat this year.
This morning I read MM93 is out for at least the next race.
Broken humerus and will be operated on Tuesday.  :(
Title: 2020 MotoGP Season
Post by: Smoothie on July 20, 2020, 08:29:43 PM
It was mind boggling. I thought the race was over for Márquez when he dropped into last place and a dozen laps later he was headed for the podium.  And then he wasn’t.  Hope he is OK.



Yeah, that was one of the most exciting, topsy turvy MotoGP races ever.   So fun!

I had to keep telling Page (my wife) “they aren’t all like this,”   :lol:

Hope MM is back soon tho.   Gnarly highside; it’s fortunate he wasn’t more badly hurt. 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 22, 2020, 04:25:54 PM
I just read that Marquez is thinking about trying to race this weekend. Damn. I'm not sure if I'd be surprised or not with that guy anymore.

Hoping that Rins and Crutchlow can go too. Gotta feel sorry for Rins. Everyone's talking like Suzuki made a leap forward for this year.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 22, 2020, 04:37:07 PM
That will be insane if he races a week after that injury.. but with him it seems anything is possible.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: minimac on July 23, 2020, 09:23:03 AM
It seems to me that MM is pushing his luck. No doubt he has a ton of talent.  IMHO, he should take the bye, and heal up a bit. With his skill and machine, he could overcome that point deficit-even with a shortened season.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 23, 2020, 09:32:32 AM
that's insane!
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on July 23, 2020, 10:29:40 AM
Yup. MM cleared to race this weekend.  :o

Well.  :popcorn:

(I can't help but think that this is just more psychological warfare on his part.)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 23, 2020, 10:31:06 AM
I imagine, psychologically, it will work.  :o
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on July 23, 2020, 10:39:41 AM
The higher the stakes, the more Marc loves it.

But it looks like his internal traction-o-meter was set a little too low... and the crash-o-meter was set a little too high. Not too mention that barely-under-control competitiveness. The 'old Marc' definitely showed up last week.

I hope that cooler heads at Honda have had a firm talk with him about 'hey... just concentrate on finishing this time... mmmmkay?' Some points are better than another DNF....

Oy.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 23, 2020, 11:28:18 AM
I see Cal was suggesting the gravel being to deep as the reason he, Rins, and MM ended up with injuries? this weekend should be interesting.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 23, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
This weekend should be interesting.

If MM93 doesn't have to withdraw due to pain/etc, then I predict he'll be on the podium. He's well and truly from another planet...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: kendenton on July 23, 2020, 08:23:47 PM
If he wins this weekend just give him the 2020 title and spare the other riders the heartache.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 24, 2020, 08:59:24 AM
If he wins this weekend just give him the 2020 title and spare the other riders the heartache.

 :thumbsup:

On a side note I see Lorenzo is implying his collarbone fracture and 4th(?) place finish in 2013 is more impressive than MM's arm...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: R Doug on July 24, 2020, 06:33:21 PM

 He's well and truly from another planet...


Yeah, I remember before MM, folks used to refer to the front runners as a group of aliens.  MM is from the mothership. 

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Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 25, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
Marquez has withdrawn from the weekend. I didn't watch the practices but I hear he did several laps in FP4. He did one lap in Q1, not setting a time, then went straight to the trailer. HRC released a statement right after qualifying that he was withdrawing from the rest of the weekend due to pain. No shit.

They showed him coming out of the trailer, hopping on the back of a scooter, and being driven away. No sling, just holding his busted arm out to the side. From the back, you could tell from the TV shot how swollen that arm was compared to the other.

You know, the last time I broke a bone (collarbone, 3 years ago), at this point I was still sleeping in a chair because it hurt so much to fricking LAY DOWN. These guys -- Marquez, Crutchlow, Rins -- pushing MotoGP bikes around the track -- it's astounding. I'm going to go put on a hat just so I can tip it to them.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 25, 2020, 01:50:43 PM
Marquez has withdrawn from the weekend. I didn't watch the practices but I hear he did several laps in FP4. He did one lap in Q1, not setting a time, then went straight to the trailer. HRC released a statement right after qualifying that he was withdrawing from the rest of the weekend due to pain. No shit.

They showed him coming out of the trailer, hopping on the back of a scooter, and being driven away. No sling, just holding his busted arm out to the side. From the back, you could tell from the TV shot how swollen that arm was compared to the other.

You know, the last time I broke a bone (collarbone, 3 years ago), at this point I was still sleeping in a chair because it hurt so much to fricking LAY DOWN. These guys -- Marquez, Crutchlow, Rins -- pushing MotoGP bikes around the track -- it's astounding. I'm going to go put on a hat just so I can tip it to them.

Marquez did a bunch of laps in FP3 and was only a second or so off the pace. Impressive... But then his arm started acting up in the afternoon, so he bagged it.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 25, 2020, 01:58:04 PM
Marquez has withdrawn from the weekend. I didn't watch the practices but I hear he did several laps in FP4. He did one lap in Q1, not setting a time, then went straight to the trailer. HRC released a statement right after qualifying that he was withdrawing from the rest of the weekend due to pain. No shit.

They showed him coming out of the trailer, hopping on the back of a scooter, and being driven away. No sling, just holding his busted arm out to the side. From the back, you could tell from the TV shot how swollen that arm was compared to the other.

You know, the last time I broke a bone (collarbone, 3 years ago), at this point I was still sleeping in a chair because it hurt so much to fricking LAY DOWN. These guys -- Marquez, Crutchlow, Rins -- pushing MotoGP bikes around the track -- it's astounding. I'm going to go put on a hat just so I can tip it to them.

Marquez did a bunch of laps in FP3 and was only a second or so off the pace. Impressive... But then his arm started acting up in the afternoon, so he bagged it.

Ah, it was FP3. I may go watch some of that just to be amazed.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on July 25, 2020, 02:17:34 PM
<whew>

Kinda relieved.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motociclista on July 25, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
Yeah, honestly I'm kind of relieved, too. I didn't want to see him get hurt worse.

He already has dodged a couple of potential career-ending bullets. Imagine if the double vision back in his Moto2 days hadn't cleared up? Instead of a potential MotoGP GOAT he'd be a mostly forgotten Moto2 phenom.

Then there's reality, which had to set in. Sure he could lap a second off the pace, for a few laps. Which is well and truly incredible. But the field is so tight this year that a second a lap puts you at the tail end of the points. And it became obvious that he wasn't going to be likely to be a second off the pace for race distance. So no, he couldn't win or get on the podium, and he would have been fortunate to get a handful of points. The risk wasn't worth it for a handful of points.

All that's just my wild-ass speculation, of course.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 25, 2020, 08:33:03 PM
All that's just my wild-ass speculation, of course.

No, I think that's pretty much what Puig said. At best, he would score a few points and it wasn't worth the risk.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Smoothie on July 26, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
Crazy race, right?    If you managed to finish you were in the points!

Second race in a row where I had to assure my wife that they are not all like this  :bigsmile:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Mrs. DantesDame on July 27, 2020, 12:17:00 AM
The field was dropping like flies! Crazy indeed.  :o
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 27, 2020, 07:59:47 AM
it appears high sides have made a return? I don;t recall seeing this many in past seasons? or maybe my memory is just bad?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 27, 2020, 08:40:46 AM
it appears high sides have made a return? I don;t recall seeing this many in past seasons? or maybe my memory is just bad?

There have been a bunch of late. Could the tire just be sliding sideways from too much corner speed on a greasy track rather than too much throttle causing wheelspin?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 27, 2020, 08:59:37 AM
not sure? just seemed like more than usual? reminds me of the 500 2stroke days.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: PatM on July 27, 2020, 12:39:46 PM
I'm wondering if the new tire compounds have anything to do with that?

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/motogp-michelin-debuting-new-tires-at-jerez/ (https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/motogp-michelin-debuting-new-tires-at-jerez/)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on July 27, 2020, 12:54:17 PM
That probably had something to do with it too.  I think Garry is right. Most of them appeared to happen before they got on the gas? it will be interesting at the next race.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 27, 2020, 01:26:06 PM
I'm guessing Garry's got it since all three classes were crashfests.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Skee on July 27, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
I’d buy new tire compounds making the track greasy as a plausible explanation.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 27, 2020, 04:06:50 PM
I’d buy new tire compounds making the track greasy as a plausible explanation.

Note that the track surface temperature was insane. 135 degF maybe? Off the charts extreme temps. Air temps were high 90s.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: miles on July 27, 2020, 06:53:38 PM
I'm guessing Garry's got it since all three classes were crashfests.


Michelin only provides the MotoGP class with tires.  Dunlops are used in Moto3 and Moto2.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 27, 2020, 10:51:21 PM
I'm guessing Garry's got it since all three classes were crashfests.


Michelin only provides the MotoGP class with tires.  Dunlops are used in Moto3 and Moto2.

Yeah, that's why I think the greasy track theory sounds better. Maybe just wishful thinking. I'd hate to see those guys chucked around like that all season.

By the way, if you have VideoPass and skipped the MotoE race, it's fun.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on July 28, 2020, 05:43:43 AM
By the way, if you have VideoPass and skipped the MotoE race, it's fun.

What do they give that one MoteE commentator that sounds like he is ready to explode all the time? Good Lord he's hyper...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on July 29, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
By the way, if you have VideoPass and skipped the MotoE race, it's fun.

What do they give that one MoteE commentator that sounds like he is ready to explode all the time? Good Lord he's hyper...

 :lol:  Yeah, I could use some of that right now.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on August 03, 2020, 06:12:11 PM
Marquez undergoes second surgery to replace titanium plate that got damaged because of 'stress accumulation'.

Really.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/03/marc-marquez-undergoes-second-operation/336779?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezundergoessecondoperation&utm_campaign=Traffic&utm_term=Story (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/03/marc-marquez-undergoes-second-operation/336779?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezundergoessecondoperation&utm_campaign=Traffic&utm_term=Story)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: PatM on August 03, 2020, 06:16:33 PM
It seems he's been a bit too eager to return to racing. I wouldn't be surprised if Honda said no for Brno.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on August 04, 2020, 08:03:48 AM
He's been ruled out for the weekend, his championship hopes are starting to fade.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on August 04, 2020, 08:41:19 AM
He's been ruled out for the weekend, his championship hopes are starting to fade.

We have races three weekends a row looming, so if he's not fit for next weekend either, then he's pretty much screwed from a championship perspective. Of course, Dovi/Miller/Vinales/Fabio can crash/DNF/get hurt just like him. Then there is the Yamaha engine (lack of) reliability issue. It's not over until the fat lady sings.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on August 04, 2020, 08:44:17 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 09, 2020, 02:33:03 AM
I'm guessing we all predicted this grid, right?

BTW, MotoGP had its 1st positive covid case on a race weekend. One of the Dorna staff. Primary contacts are all in Isolation.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: motodog650 on August 09, 2020, 11:54:41 AM
I'm guessing we all predicted this grid, right?

Nailed it  ;) Good on ya BB33  8)

That penalty on Zarco was BS but loved how he handled it. Guess if your name isn't Marquez you have to pay the price. Good thing it didn't happen at the Red Bull Ring or he probably would've been black flagged  :'(
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 09, 2020, 02:24:11 PM
I'm glad someone else thinks that. The commentators were all over Zarco for it. And, yeah, the way he took the long lap was awesome.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on August 09, 2020, 04:19:21 PM
Not Zarco’s fault at all IMO
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 09, 2020, 04:48:50 PM
I'm glad someone else thinks that. The commentators were all over Zarco for it. And, yeah, the way he took the long lap was awesome.

They said something like his front wheel had to get in front of Pols, and it didn't.  I don't know the specific rules, but in the Racing Rules of Sailing, which I do know, your bow has to cross in front of a leading boats stern for you to have overtaking rights and can claim right of way. Sounds like in GP MC racing, you have to be leading them to have rights.

Zarco got inside but Pol cut back in to the apex definitely leading.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Smoothie on August 09, 2020, 04:49:26 PM
I'm glad someone else thinks that. The commentators were all over Zarco for it. And, yeah, the way he took the long lap was awesome.


Plus one.    And yeah, knee down on the long lap?   Awesome!!  :bigok:
Title: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Smoothie on August 09, 2020, 04:53:03 PM
I'm glad someone else thinks that. The commentators were all over Zarco for it. And, yeah, the way he took the long lap was awesome.

They said something like his front wheel had to get in front of Pols, and it didn't.  I don't know the specific rules, but in the Racing Rules of Sailing, which I do know, your bow has to cross in front of a leading boats stern for you to have overtaking rights and can claim right of way. Sounds like in GP MC racing, you have to be leading them to have rights.

Zarco got inside but Pol cut back in to the apex definitely leading.



Hmmm.   So, in this case because Zarco’s front wheel was not leading Pol’s, he’s supposed to back off?

That sort of makes sense, although in real time it sure looked like Zarco had established inside position.   I was surprised that the commentators were so sure Zarco was in the wrong.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on August 09, 2020, 06:03:58 PM
Crafar changed his mind and apologized to Zarco after reviewing helicopter video...
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 09, 2020, 07:57:50 PM
Crafar changed his mind and apologized to Zarco after reviewing helicopter video...

I could imagine a former racer might have a different opinion than race direction, after both have scrutinized all the replays.

When I saw it live, I thought Zarco got inside and Pol shouldn't have cut back in and must not have seen Zarco there (unless he was seeing a little red). After seeing replays many times, my opinion hasn't changed. Looked similar to most block passes with plenty of overlap. However, I don't know the details of the rules so my opinion means squat.   ;D

I'll probably get to read a lot of articles with more technical details of the rules before the fun starts again next Friday. 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Skee on August 09, 2020, 08:39:53 PM
 :withstupid:  it looked like a dumbass move on Pol’s part to me, and yeah, I would have been seeing red if I was in his position because it looked like Zarco was squeezing inside, but then it’s a race.

I don’t know the rules, so my opinion don’t mean squat either. 

Sure has been an exciting season to watch.   
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: slayman on August 10, 2020, 06:42:32 AM
By the way, if you have VideoPass and skipped the MotoE race, it's fun.

What do they give that one MoteE commentator that sounds like he is ready to explode all the time? Good Lord he's hyper...

Have you watched an F1 race lately? I believe they call him Crofty.  I don't think there's been anything exciting enough in F1 in the past 20 years to deserve the level of hyper excitement to which he ascends. I think if he called a MotoGP race his head would explode.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: PatM on August 12, 2020, 10:18:10 AM
Interesting comment about the Michelin tires vs the previous Bridgestone, how they affect braking.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/fabios-rear-brake-trick (https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/fabios-rear-brake-trick)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 15, 2020, 07:38:11 AM
Just in, Dovi out of Ducati.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on August 15, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
That's a bit of a surprise, as Dovi chose to leave (not released). Aprilia would be keen to sign him but I bet he's not a cheap date. He previously said he was prepared to take a year off if needed.

There will more than a bit of competition for that factory seat. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds over the coming weeks.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 15, 2020, 08:41:36 AM
From Simon Crafar's interview this morning with Ducati chief, sounds like it was all about $$$. I wouldn't be surprised if they came to a deal later.

Bet Zarco's eyes lit up a bit. He's shown he can make a Ducati get around the track pretty well. Most likely take Millers place as he moves up to the factory seat. Who gets the other?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 15, 2020, 01:02:27 PM
Tardozzi said earlier this week it would be Dovi, Bagnaia, or Lorenzo. And he said the announcement would come after the two Austria races. So I guess we've narrowed the choice to two.

I'm betting Zarco gets a better bike, but not the factory.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on August 15, 2020, 03:00:34 PM
I think Zarco has some added pressure to perform well
This weekend and next. 
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 21, 2020, 09:25:54 PM
Anybody know what Quartararo wears on his hands and why? And do we all have to buy them now to be real motorcyclists?

Zarco didn't practice today because of the surgery. But, he got hit with a penalty for last weekend's crash and will start from pit lane if he races. I don't know how I feel about that, but I haven't heard any riders come to his defense. Maybe that should answer it.

I watched a little FP 2 today. The super slo-mo cam was in turn 7 and they had Quartararo going through there with a 63% lean angle. Damn. I hope they leave it there all weekend.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 21, 2020, 09:29:01 PM
And, by the way, my fantasy team is doing sucky. Who else is playing?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on August 22, 2020, 11:56:23 AM
Looks like it will be another good one. KTM on pole andzarco was fast but has to start from pit lane due to last weeks error*.  And it would appear a super human miracle comeback by MM is out:
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857)
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on August 22, 2020, 01:07:16 PM
...And it would appear a super human miracle comeback by MM is out:
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857)

That sucks, but it has been awfully fun without him.

So what is Repsol actually doing right now? Are they using this as an extended testing season? There's no real reason I can think of for them being at the back of the grid even without MM.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: viffergyrl on August 22, 2020, 01:21:49 PM
Looks like it will be another good one. KTM on pole andzarco was fast but has to start from pit lane due to last weeks error*.  And it would appear a super human miracle comeback by MM is out:
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857)

Sounds like HRC put their foot down on this one. "Stop talking crazy, Marc."
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: miles on August 22, 2020, 11:09:24 PM
...And it would appear a super human miracle comeback by MM is out:
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857)

That sucks, but it has been awfully fun without him.

So what is Repsol actually doing right now? Are they using this as an extended testing season? There's no real reason I can think of for them being at the back of the grid even without MM.


Sure there is.  Their other rider is AM.


In all seriousness, it seems every factory except KTM went backwards this year with their development.  The guys doing best are on last year's bikes.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: miles on August 22, 2020, 11:10:46 PM
  And it would appear a super human miracle comeback by MM is out:
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857 (https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/22/marc-marquez-ruled-out-for-two-to-three-months/340857)



We all knew something like this was inevitable.  A rider just can't keep crashing as often as MM does and not have season- or career-ending injuries.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 23, 2020, 07:27:26 AM
They're not all like this, part 5.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: garry on August 23, 2020, 03:09:23 PM
They're not all like this, part 5.

You can't make this shit up. 2020 has been quite the year. Maybe they will all be like this this season.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on August 23, 2020, 06:54:26 PM
Can't help but to feel for TN30 and JM36. Going so well before the red flag.

And can things get any worse for Yamaha?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: miles on August 23, 2020, 08:30:42 PM
Can't help but to feel for TN30 and JM36. Going so well before the red flag.

And can things get any worse for Yamaha?


Well, that was Viñales' last motor for the season, so the answer is probably yes.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: leeo45 on August 23, 2020, 09:47:05 PM
Can't help but to feel for TN30 and JM36. Going so well before the red flag.

And can things get any worse for Yamaha?


Well, that was Viñales' last motor for the season, so the answer is probably yes.

My understanding of the amended rules for 2020 is that the factory teams are allowed five engines per rider for the twelve event season.  Does this mean that if they can't pull a sealed and working motor out of today's wreck that Viñales will be starting the next seven races from Pit Lane?

FIM Regulations - 1.21.20    Penalties for infringement of Article 2.x.3.3 (Engine durability in MotoGP and Moto3).
- Infringement before the race: the rider will start the race from the pit lane 5 seconds after the green light is on at the pit lane exit.
- Infringement during the race: ride through.
Each engine taken above allocation will result in a penalty. Where more than one extra engine is taken at one event, remaining penalties will be carried forward to the next event if necessary.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: miles on August 23, 2020, 11:45:31 PM
They can and will. What they don't have is any more fresh motors.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on September 12, 2020, 06:17:12 PM
They're baaack!  Yamaha guys, that is.
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: biking sailor on September 14, 2020, 06:49:56 PM
MM93 must be setting at home thinking...

"If I hadn't broken my arm in the first race, I would have so had this championship wrapped up by now."

 ;D
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on September 14, 2020, 06:58:27 PM
MM93 must be setting at home thinking...

"If I hadn't broken my arm in the first race, I would have so had this championship wrapped up by now."

 ;D

So what is going on at Honda anyway? Zero riders in Q2? Repsol the back row? Did they decide to use the whole season as a testing session?
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: PatM on September 14, 2020, 07:18:41 PM
MM93 must be setting at home thinking...

"If I hadn't broken my arm in the first race, I would have so had this championship wrapped up by now."

 ;D

So what is going on at Honda anyway? Zero riders in Q2? Repsol the back row? Did they decide to use the whole season as a testing session?

Could it be that Alex isn't as good as his brother?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: Black Hills on September 14, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
That whole “all your eggs in one basket “. Thing
Title: Re: 2020 MotoGP Thread
Post by: squeezer on September 14, 2020, 09:43:39 PM
MM93 must be setting at home thinking...

"If I hadn't broken my arm in the first race, I would have so had this championship wrapped up by now."

 ;D

So what is going on at Honda anyway? Zero riders in Q2? Repsol the back row? Did they decide to use the whole season as a testing session?

Could it be that Alex isn't as good as his brother?  :headscratch:

No doubt. But he and Bradl aren't back row bad. At least, I don't think so.